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       #Post#: 5387--------------------------------------------------
       VERBLING a great resource for language learners
   DIR By: Aliph
       Date: August 23, 2018, 6:19 am
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       As some of you know I was kicked out from Italki and the lessons
       I had booked in advance were canceled (I still am waiting for a
       refund).
       One of my teachers is on Verbling, an American website that has
       is own platform (based on a Chrome extension).. I had my first
       two lessons with two different persons since I found another
       acquaintance on the website. One teacher wanted to stick to Zoom
       and it was OK. The other used the Verbling App and it was great.
       He hasn’t a fabulous internet connection when he uses Skype but
       it was OK on Verbling.
       There is also the possibility to make flash cards with the new
       vocabulary.
       Unfortunately one of my favorite teachers doesn’t or can’t come
       over to the new place.
       I miss her a lot and it’s impossible to find a solution.
       So if some “honorable members” who never got kicked out from
       Italki would write to support@italki.com and plead my cause, I
       would be very grateful to them.
       #Post#: 5388--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VERBLING a great resource for language learners
   DIR By: the lost minion
       Date: August 23, 2018, 6:23 am
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       There are no honorable members here, Zenobia. It's EGP.
       What about creating another account? Have you tried it? Just set
       it up and book the lessons. Don't plead with them. You don't
       need to.
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       Re: VERBLING a great resource for language learners
   DIR By: Aliph
       Date: August 23, 2018, 6:36 am
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       The problem is the payment. Cannot have a credit card with a
       fake name (danger of money laundering). All my family members
       have the same family name and since I am an indipendent person I
       hate asking friends to “lend me “ their credit card.
       Any other idea?
       
       #Post#: 5393--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VERBLING a great resource for language learners
   DIR By: the lost minion
       Date: August 23, 2018, 7:00 am
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       Just give them money to their payPal or a bank account and ask
       them to buy you the italki credits you need. Besides, I bet a
       lot of people have your name; they can't possibly block each and
       every one of them. To be safe try to ask a friend to buy the
       credits (not to give you their card data, of course not).
       There were also gifts at italki at some point - you could give
       credits to another user. So to use that, set up a fake account
       and get a gift from a real account your friend/family member had
       made.
       There are also anonymous credit cards. I haven't used them, this
       is the one Kevin Mitnick recommends in his book on online
       privacy; you can check it out:
  HTML https://www.viabuy.com/features/the-embossed-prepaid-mastercard.html
       Neal also said something about his store.
       #Post#: 5397--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VERBLING a great resource for language learners
   DIR By: KingSlayer
       Date: August 23, 2018, 8:17 am
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       --- Quote from: Zenobia link ---
       >
       > The problem is the payment. Cannot have a credit card with a
       fake name (danger of money laundering). All my family members
       have the same family name and since I am an indipendent person I
       hate asking friends to “lend me “ their credit card.
       > Any other idea?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Does it necessarily have to be a credit card? I have purchased
       online courses with debit cards with no problem.
       #Post#: 5400--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VERBLING a great resource for language learners
   DIR By: the lost minion
       Date: August 23, 2018, 8:25 am
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       No, they take credit and debit cards, no difference. But it
       doesn't solve Aliph's problem.
       Also, the link I gave above is for anonymous prepaid cards, not
       credit cards, obviously.
       #Post#: 5402--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VERBLING a great resource for language learners
   DIR By: Aliph
       Date: August 23, 2018, 8:30 am
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       @The Frog Lady
       You surely are a big resource. I will give it a look. Thank you!
       #Post#: 5403--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VERBLING a great resource for language learners
   DIR By: KingSlayer
       Date: August 23, 2018, 8:32 am
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       --- Quote from: the Frog Lady link ---
       >
       > No, they take credit and debit cards, no difference. But it
       doesn't solve Aliph's problem.
       > Also, the link I gave above is for anonymous prepaid cards,
       not credit cards, obviously.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Well, it does. She can pay the money to one of her friends in
       advance and then uses the debit card under their name charged
       with the same amount of money.
       This way she wouldn't need to ask people to "lend" them their
       credit card. And she doesn't need to worry about her friend's
       credit card charged for renewal and blah blah blah.
       #Post#: 5405--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VERBLING a great resource for language learners
   DIR By: the lost minion
       Date: August 23, 2018, 8:37 am
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       --- Quote from: KingSlayer link ---
       >
       >
       > Well, it does. She can pay the money to one of her friends in
       advance and then uses the debit card under their name charged
       with the same amount of money.
       > This way she wouldn't need to ask people to "lend" them their
       credit card. And she doesn't need to worry about her friend's
       credit card charged for renewal and blah blah blah.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Are we talking about the same thing? I use a debit card for
       subscriptions and the like and they sure can charge for renewal
       how many times and how much they want. It just won't exceed the
       amount of money I have on the account. That's the main
       difference here. So the money can be stolen just as well.
       #Post#: 5408--------------------------------------------------
       Re: VERBLING a great resource for language learners
   DIR By: KingSlayer
       Date: August 23, 2018, 8:45 am
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       --- Quote from: the Frog Lady link ---
       >
       > Are we talking about the same thing? I use a debit card for
       subscriptions and the like and they sure can charge for renewal
       how many times and how much they want. It just won't exceed the
       amount of money I have on the account. That's the main
       difference here. So the money can be stolen just as well.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       I don't know. Are we?
       Maybe I have something else in mind. Correct me if I'm wrong,
       but once you have a credit card, you can buy stuff even when
       your balance becomes negative. You just get indebted to the bank
       and you should repay the money later. With a debit card, if you
       do not have sufficient funds in your card, you cannot buy
       anything with it.
       So, if you have your credit card information stored in your
       e-wallet on an online website, and your settings allow them to
       charge your credit card for monthly/yearly renewals, they will
       charge you which is to be repaid later. If you have a debit
       card, and you do not have enough money in your card for renewal,
       they cannot do sh*t with your card. You can charge your debit
       card for one-time use of their service and pay it to your friend
       in advance and that's it.
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