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       #Post#: 4647--------------------------------------------------
       Trolls, shitposting, irresponsible users, lazy admin, permissive
       moderator
   DIR By: grzybek
       Date: August 6, 2018, 7:37 am
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       It appears that we have an unhealthy "normal users" vs
       "trolls/trolling users" ratio and an administrator is a lazy
       punk, and the global moderator is extremely permissive, to say
       the least. So I was wondering - I rarely wonder what other
       people think, but I haven't been feeling very well, I may be
       suffering from food poisoning or something, anyway - I was
       wondering if maybe this is a problem. What do you think? Would
       you like this forum to be more organized? Do you have any
       suggestions?
       #Post#: 4649--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Trolls, shitposting, irresponsible users, lazy admin,
       permissive moderator
   DIR By: NealC
       Date: August 6, 2018, 8:01 am
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       I probably don't need to say it but I will comment anyway - you
       can all speak freely on what you want.  It is not going to hurt
       my feelings if you want the boards to be more organized and you
       don't want Truman, NealC, and SHL scrapping on your threads.  I
       would like to say in my defense that I am not the one who leads
       the threads off topic, but I certainly pitch in once things gets
       started.
       vox pupuli, vox dei
       #Post#: 4650--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Trolls, shitposting, irresponsible users, lazy admin,
       permissive moderator
   DIR By: Pasha
       Date: August 6, 2018, 8:46 am
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       --- Quote from: grzybek link ---
       >
       > It appears that we have an unhealthy "normal users" vs
       "trolls/trolling users" ratio and an administrator is a lazy
       punk, and the global moderator is extremely permissive, to say
       the least. So I was wondering - I rarely wonder what other
       people think, but I haven't been feeling very well, I may be
       suffering from food poisoning or something, anyway - I was
       wondering if maybe this is a problem. What do you think? Would
       you like this forum to be more organized? Do you have any
       suggestions?
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Let them troll and be unhealthy otherwise there wouldn't be much
       stuff to read on this board.
       #Post#: 4652--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Trolls, shitposting, irresponsible users, lazy admin,
       permissive moderator
   DIR By: SHL
       Date: August 6, 2018, 9:35 am
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       Well, I don`t think there`s any off-topic stuff going on here or
       trolling. There are some super-patriotic Americans here who will
       remain unnamed, but know we all know who they are, and are just
       doing what Americans do, and you can`t allow their tactics to go
       unanswered because that would lead to anarchy. These people have
       to be kept in check, for the protection of informed speech. But,
       I think everyone should be allowed to speak, even if it`s things
       certain people say. You don`t want this board to become another
       italki do you?
       #Post#: 4653--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Trolls, shitposting, irresponsible users, lazy admin,
       permissive moderator
   DIR By: SHL
       Date: August 6, 2018, 9:37 am
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       Thanks Pasha. You`re a good man! Join in the lively and
       enlightening conversation. I like to hear your comments.
       #Post#: 4655--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Trolls, shitposting, irresponsible users, lazy admin,
       permissive moderator
   DIR By: the lost minion
       Date: August 6, 2018, 1:36 pm
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       --- Quote from: SHL link ---
       >
       > Well, I don`t think there`s any off-topic stuff going on here
       or trolling. There are some super-patriotic Americans here who
       will remain unnamed, but know we all know who they are, and are
       just doing what Americans do, and you can`t allow their tactics
       to go unanswered because that would lead to anarchy. These
       people have to be kept in check, for the protection of informed
       speech. But, I think everyone should be allowed to speak, even
       if it`s things certain people say.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Huh?
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       > You don`t want this board to become another italki do you?
       --- End Quote ---
       Why not? I mean how could it? They are discussing relationships
       there now. It's faaaaascinating. We couldn't get even near this
       even if we wanted to...
       Anyway, if anyone wants a change, speak up. This is the time and
       place (until we start discussing something entirely different
       here, that is).
       #Post#: 4656--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Trolls, shitposting, irresponsible users, lazy admin,
       permissive moderator
   DIR By: KingSlayer
       Date: August 6, 2018, 1:48 pm
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       Can we have more off-topic posts and trolling please?
       #Post#: 4658--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Trolls, shitposting, irresponsible users, lazy admin,
       permissive moderator
   DIR By: Alharacas
       Date: August 6, 2018, 1:59 pm
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       Wait-wait-wait, Grzybek - you mean there might be someone
       somewhere on this forum who'd actually want me to... moderate?
       To, er, DO something? Gasp! This is unheard of! I shall resign
       start thinking about resigning forthwith!
       #Post#: 4660--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Trolls, shitposting, irresponsible users, lazy admin,
       permissive moderator
   DIR By: Alharacas
       Date: August 6, 2018, 2:05 pm
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       --- Quote from: grzybek link ---
       >
       > It appears that we have an unhealthy "normal users" vs
       "trolls/trolling users" ratio
       --- End Quote ---
       There's a particularly apposite German expression for this: Wie
       der Herr, so's Gescherr.
       #Post#: 4661--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Trolls, shitposting, irresponsible users, lazy admin,
       permissive moderator
   DIR By: the lost minion
       Date: August 6, 2018, 2:06 pm
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       --- Quote from: Alharacas link ---
       >
       > Wait-wait-wait, Grzybek - you mean there might be someone
       somewhere on this forum who'd actually want me to... moderate?
       To, er, DO something? Gasp! This is unheard of! I shall resign
       start thinking about resigning forthwith!
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Should such a person creep around here dreaming that this place
       look like Miss World Contests with the users sharing their love
       and nothing but goodwill towards all sentient beings, suffering
       from cramps they got from constant smiling, I warmly urge them
       to voice their opinion. Looking at this forum, I have reasons to
       suspect all those people left a long time ago. But who knows...
       I just want to know your opinions.
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