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Do/Did you feel there is a language which sounds particularly ag
gressive?
By: Alharacas Date: June 29, 2018, 2:56 am
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Or did you use to? Do you speak that language? And if so, has
your perception of that language changed over the course of
learning to speak it (to whichever degree of fluency)?
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Re: Do/Did you feel there is a language which sounds particularl
y aggressive?
By: Coligno Date: June 29, 2018, 4:31 am
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I'm sure you're well aware that German has a reputation for
sounding aggressive, but in my opinion its aggressiveness has
been overstated: probably many people's experiences of spoken
German largely come from films about the war (and I imagine that
any language heard solely in a military context from the mouths
of one's enemies is bound to sound aggressive).
You might be surprised to learn that one language I find sounds
aggressive is Italian, or if not aggressive, at least
quarrelsome. But I only started thinking so after I learned the
language. I don't remember if I had any particular opinion about
it before that.
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Re: Do/Did you feel there is a language which sounds particularl
y aggressive?
By: the lost minion Date: June 29, 2018, 4:41 am
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[quote author=Coligno link=topic=291.msg2912#msg2912
date=1530264669]
I'm sure you're well aware that German has a reputation for
sounding aggressive, but in my opinion its aggressiveness has
been overstated: probably many people's experiences of spoken
German largely come from films about the war (and I imagine that
any language heard solely in a military context from the mouths
of one's enemies is bound to sound aggressive).
[/quote]
Not only this. Some time ago I realized that I already have some
German vocabulary, only it mainly consists of phrases like: Gott
mit uns; Arbeit macht frei; Lagerfürher; Kinder, Küche, Kirche;
Juden, raus; Nur für Deutsche etc. I can go on. Actually, this
is not funny, but that's how it is.
I also remember thinking it sounds harsh and not very nice - but
I suppose that was our schoolteacher's fault. She was always
speaking as if she wanted to kill everyone around. Now when I
listen to German radio, I find German pronunciation actually
very nice with all those schwa sounds.
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Re: Do/Did you feel there is a language which sounds particularl
y aggressive?
By: MartinSR Date: June 29, 2018, 5:02 am
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I agree that this is common opinion about German. Especially
repeated by people who never learned It, who know it only from
the movies about war - I remember from my teenage years those
films (of Polish or Soviet production) were showed in our TV
over and over again. So I really felt a bit disappointed when I
was told German would be the second foreign language taught at
my high school (There was Russian obligatory for all, and German
or French as a second - but they divided us into groups not
asking for preferences; English wasn't available at all). When I
started to learn I noticed it sounds normal, maybe a little bit
harsh, but there are more languages which not sound melodic.
Btw. It was more useful while travelling in Central Europe than
e.g. English or French.
When people say that German is unpleasant I sometimes show them
nice songs like this one by FAUN, I placed in another thread on
this forum.
So it depends on our perception of the country, based on
stereotypes and often painful history. I've heard some Russians
say that Polish sounds unpleasant (like the snake language from
Harry Potter series). But whoever I ask, they say 'Oh no! It
sounds nice (or at least normal)!'
P.C. again?
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Re: Do/Did you feel there is a language which sounds particularl
y aggressive?
By: the lost minion Date: June 29, 2018, 5:11 am
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[quote author=MartinSR link=topic=291.msg2914#msg2914
date=1530266548]
So it depends on our perception of the country, based on
stereotypes and often painful history. I've heard some Russians
say that Polish sounds unpleasant (like the snake language from
Harry Potter series). But whoever I ask, they say 'Oh no! It
sounds nice (or at least normal)!'
P.C. again?
[/quote]
;D For me, Russians sound as if they were drunk. I don't think
it's a prejudice, because I had the same thing with Spanish from
Spain - I guess the reason was "ceceo" (or the pronunciation of
ce/ci/z in general). When I learned enough to understand and
speak it, however, this feeling disappeared. If I ever get to
learn some Russian, as I intend to, I suspect the same thing
will happen.
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Re: Do/Did you feel there is a language which sounds particularl
y aggressive?
By: Alharacas Date: June 29, 2018, 5:21 am
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[quote author=Coligno link=topic=291.msg2912#msg2912
date=1530264669]
I'm sure you're well aware that German has a reputation for
sounding aggressive, but in my opinion its aggressiveness has
been overstated: probably many people's experiences of spoken
German largely come from films about the war (and I imagine that
any language heard solely in a military context from the mouths
of one's enemies is bound to sound aggressive).[/quote]
Yes, I'm well aware of that. And I agree with you, the Minion
and Marcin as to films about the war and military context in
general.
[quote author=Coligno link=topic=291.msg2912#msg2912
date=1530264669]
You might be surprised to learn that one language I find sounds
aggressive is Italian, or if not aggressive, at least
quarrelsome. But I only started thinking so after I learned the
language. I don't remember if I had any particular opinion about
it before that. [/quote]
I find that surprising indeed. For various reasons.
First, because Italian has always sounded particularly charming
to me. Secondly, because I had this idea that perhaps we tended
to think that any language we're surrounded by - without
understanding it! - sounded aggressive. I got this idea
precisely because over the years, countless people have told me
either how agressive German sounds - or that they used to think
it sounded really harsh and aggressive until they started
learning it.
Thanks for disabusing me of this, Coligno. ;)
To me, it's the Arabic language (as spoken in North Africa)
which sounds particularly harsh and aggressive. Perhaps I should
take a few lessons, just to find out whether that would change
my perception.
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Re: Do/Did you feel there is a language which sounds particularl
y aggressive?
By: Chizuko hanji Date: June 29, 2018, 6:46 am
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The language which sounds a particular aggressive?
North Korean speaking sounds always aggressive. They are always
angry. I wonder how ordinary people speak.
For me, German does not sound so aggressive. I watched TV show
that a foreign woman showing her cook and explaining in her
language. I didn't notice where she is from. She talked about
cooking, smiling beautifully. She sounded intelligent too. Then
the Japanese narrations told it was cooked in someone's house in
Germany. She was a German. It didn't sound aggressive at all.
Another TV shows the beer festival in Munchi. People speaks
happily,of course it's a party! How can I describe about the
German team work? They really enjoy together, singing, drinking.
It made me smile.
I can't understand any languages other than Japanese and
English. so other languages are always music to me. When I
talked with someone who is Muslim in English, he sounds like
reading Quran. If Italian speaks English or Italian, it always
sound like a opera.
So, personally, the language that sounds aggressive is only
North Korean. Because they are truly angry and aggressive.
I watched this video a few years ago. Is this German song? The
all audience suddenly sang it. Good team work!
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUqhPoA5bIY&lc=UggAV8JEUJJon3gCoAEC
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Re: Do/Did you feel there is a language which sounds particularl
y aggressive?
By: Alharacas Date: June 29, 2018, 7:04 am
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Yes, Chizuko, it appears to be something traditionally sung in
Cologne.
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Re: Do/Did you feel there is a language which sounds particularl
y aggressive?
By: KingSlayer Date: June 29, 2018, 7:09 am
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They say Russian, German and Arabic sound aggressive. Surely it
has nothing to do with the history behind these languages. :P
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Re: Do/Did you feel there is a language which sounds particularl
y aggressive?
By: MartinSR Date: June 29, 2018, 7:39 am
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Russian sounds nice to me, similarly to Polish spoken by people
from the East part of my country.
French and Italian both sound very nice. Japanese very normal,
like Polish to me.
Arabic is really harsh, but I don't find it aggressive. I like
the sound of Turkish (especially their pop music) and Persian.
I've learned very little of Turkish before my vacation there a
few years ago. I wanted to demonstrate some sentences I learned
to my colleague at work and said something like 'I'm in a very
good mood' (Benım ruhsal durumum çok ıyı). And
she said it sounded like 'I'll kill you ...' (she had probably
very bad stereotypes about Turks?).
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