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       #Post#: 19951--------------------------------------------------
       How long do you think this Covid 19 pandemic will last?
       By: SHL Date: July 18, 2020, 8:27 pm
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       I was wondering if anyone has any idea how long this corona
       virus thing will last? The EU imposed an Einreiseverbot (entry
       ban) on people with US passports. Even Canada and Mexico won’t
       let us in, at least until August 20th (so I read, but this could
       be extended, who knows)?  What worries me is I could be stuck in
       this dumb country (the USA) for god-knows-how long? This could
       go on for 5 years! The Japanese got lucky and are allowed in,
       and the Canadians, but the US is at the top of the Corona list
       as the biggest disaster zone for corona in the world (thanks to
       Trump). I wonder if the Russians will let me in ?
       #Post#: 19952--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How long do you think this Covid 19 pandemic will last?
       By: Nikola Date: July 20, 2020, 5:14 am
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       It's not looking great, is it? Sorry you guys ended up so
       isolated. Regarding how long it's going to last, my crystal ball
       remains silent. A few months back, I argued about it with some
       know-it-all on a certain language learning website and he
       claimed that it had peaked and no way would there be more than
       400 000 deaths worldwide. The deaths just exceeded 600 000.
       We're almost back to normal here now but as they started
       loosening the restrictions, there were more cases, as expected.
       It's been bearable so far, though.
       I travelled to Austria with my friends and came back with what
       looked a lot like COVID so I had another one of those delightful
       between-your-nose-and-your-brain swabs and luckily it was
       negative so I am free to leave my bedroom now (I was worried I
       might give it to my parents). How's your mother doing?
       #Post#: 19953--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How long do you think this Covid 19 pandemic will last?
       By: SHL Date: July 20, 2020, 6:39 pm
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       [quote author=Nikola link=topic=1441.msg19952#msg19952
       date=1595240059]
       It's not looking great, is it? Sorry you guys ended up so
       isolated. Regarding how long it's going to last, my crystal ball
       remains silent. A few months back, I argued about it with some
       know-it-all on a certain language learning website and he
       claimed that it had peaked and no way would there be more than
       400 000 deaths worldwide. The deaths just exceeded 600 000.
       We're almost back to normal here now but as they started
       loosening the restrictions, there were more cases, as expected.
       It's been bearable so far, though.
       I travelled to Austria with my friends and came back with what
       looked a lot like COVID so I had another one of those delightful
       between-your-nose-and-your-brain swabs and luckily it was
       negative so I am free to leave my bedroom now (I was worried I
       might give it to my parents). How's your mother doing?
       [/quote]
       Yeah, this has been a terrible year for everyone it seems. Glad
       you’re doing okay. A couple of attorneys in our local court
       tested positive for Covid, but I don’t think they are in that
       bad of shape. Not yet. Who knows what will happen in the future.
       This thing is really out there. Some people (Trump supporters
       most likely), not so much around where I live in the US, are
       really being stupid about this, like refusing masks, or acting
       like everything is back to normal, when it’s not. That‘s why
       we’ve got the highest rates in the world, and I think 3rd
       highest death rates from it.
       As to my mother, at first we thought things would be okay for
       her, because he CT scan looked good. No evidence of cancer. But,
       she developed swollen lymph nodes in her neck a week ago or so.
       An urgent care doctor she saw didn‘t know what was causing it
       and gave her some antibiotics. But, the antibiotics didn’t clear
       it up, although she thinks they might have helped a little.
       She had a biopsy of the lymph node in her armpit last week, and
       the never got the results of it. She already had an appointment
       to see the same doc as a follow-up on Tuesday, but that doctor‘s
       office called her today and the doctor wants to see her
       tomorrow, earlier than expected. That’s not a good sign. So,
       I’ll be taking her tomorrow at 12:20. So at the moment things
       don’t sound that great for her. Sorry to say.
       #Post#: 19954--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How long do you think this Covid 19 pandemic will last?
       By: Aliph Date: July 20, 2020, 6:46 pm
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       I am sorry SHL that things are so bad with this virus and that
       you are afraid to get trapped. How long it will last is hard to
       say, but there are promising news about different vaccine ready
       for next year.
       People really do not travel very far, even in Europe, mostly
       they go to visit friends or family in their own or neighboring
       countries, mostly by private car or train (mask is compulsory).
       I do not know how it is in German airports, but where I live
       there are little controls. Theoretically, you should self
       confine during 10 days at your arrival, if you come from a “RED”
       country. But it seems that it is all based on personal
       responsibility.
       If you want to come to Europe maybe you should try to stay a
       week in Iceland...did you check that option?
       P.S. sorry for your Mom, let’s hope it will be ok.
       #Post#: 19955--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How long do you think this Covid 19 pandemic will last?
       By: SHL Date: July 20, 2020, 7:43 pm
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       [quote author=Nobody link=topic=1441.msg19954#msg19954
       date=1595288778]
       I am sorry SHL that things are so bad with this virus and that
       you are afraid to get trapped. How long it will last is hard to
       say, but there are promising news about different vaccine ready
       for next year.
       People really do not travel very far, even in Europe, mostly
       they go to visit friends or family in their own or neighboring
       countries, mostly by private car or train (mask is compulsory).
       I do not know how it is in German airports, but where I live
       there are little controls. Theoretically, you should self
       confine during 10 days at your arrival, if you come from a “RED”
       country. But it seems that it is all based on personal
       responsibility.
       If you want to come to Europe maybe you should try to stay a
       week in Iceland...did you check that option?
       P.S. sorry for your Mom, let’s hope it will be ok.
       [/quote]
       Thanks, Nobody, about the kind words about mom. My sisters and I
       are worried about her.
       Iceland is closed to us too (it’s a Schengen area country like
       Switzerland). Yeah, there’s no where to go really (like I said,
       except maybe Russia, which is about as bad with Covid as the
       US).  I’ve never experienced anything like this. But, that’s
       true for a lot of the world. I guess all we can do is hope
       things get better. And soon.
       Nice hearing from you.
       Take care
       Steven
       #Post#: 19956--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How long do you think this Covid 19 pandemic will last?
       By: Sid Date: July 21, 2020, 10:49 am
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       We need accurate numbers.
       #Post#: 19957--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How long do you think this Covid 19 pandemic will last?
       By: Aliph Date: July 21, 2020, 2:16 pm
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       Steven, theoretisch kannst Du nach Deutschland fahren wenn du
       einen Test gemacht hast (spätestens 48 Stunden vor dem
       Eintritt). So musst Du Dich nicht 14 Taagen lang isolieren.
  HTML https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Tests.html
       Aber die Situation kann sich plötzlich ändern. Ich würde kein
       Flugticket buchen, das Geld bekommst Du kaum zurück.
       Warte bis auf nächstes Jahr. Es wird schon gehen und deine
       Mutter braucht dich jetzt. Deutschland kann warten.
       #Post#: 19965--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How long do you think this Covid 19 pandemic will last?
       By: SHL Date: July 24, 2020, 11:50 pm
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       [quote author=Nobody link=topic=1441.msg19957#msg19957
       date=1595358982]
       Steven, theoretisch kannst Du nach Deutschland fahren wenn du
       einen Test gemacht hast (spätestens 48 Stunden vor dem
       Eintritt). So musst Du Dich nicht 14 Taagen lang isolieren.
  HTML https://www.rki.de/DE/Content/InfAZ/N/Neuartiges_Coronavirus/Tests.html
       Aber die Situation kann sich plötzlich ändern. Ich würde kein
       Flugticket buchen, das Geld bekommst Du kaum zurück.
       Warte bis auf nächstes Jahr. Es wird schon gehen und deine
       Mutter braucht dich jetzt. Deutschland kann warten.
       [/quote]
       Leider gilt das nur für diejenigen, die die Staatsbürgerschaft
       eines EU-Mitgliedstaates besitzen, die aus bestimmten
       Corona-gefährdeten Ländern, wie den USA, heimkehren. Aber für
       einfache Reisende aus den USA, gibt es immer noch ein
       Einreiseverbot. Hoffentlich wir’s bald aufgehoben, aber wie wäre
       das möglich, wenn wir immer noch so viele Corona-Fälle haben?
       #Post#: 19966--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How long do you think this Covid 19 pandemic will last?
       By: Nikola Date: July 25, 2020, 11:31 am
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       I don't know... It looks like it's getting worse here again :(
       #Post#: 19967--------------------------------------------------
       Re: How long do you think this Covid 19 pandemic will last?
       By: Pasha Date: July 27, 2020, 8:54 am
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       It might last forever like AIDS.  Antibodies last only few
       months so if vaccine developed  you are going to need multiple
       shots to stay protected. But things aren't that terrible.  It
       looks like some East Asian countries got it under control even
       without lockdowns. As long as government  takes virus seriously
       and not acting macho it can be taken under control.
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