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       Re: Power Struggle
       By: SHL Date: January 10, 2020, 8:01 pm
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       [quote author=Nikola link=topic=1412.msg19739#msg19739
       date=1578649079]
       Neal, I heard it too. It was on the same website I provided a
       link to above:
  HTML https://www.worldstandards.eu/why-no-universal-plug/
       "The reason why the world is now stuck with no less than 15
       different styles of plugs and wall outlets, is because many
       countries preferred to develop a plug of their own, instead of
       adopting the US standard. In one sense those countries were
       actually right, though: the wobbly American plugs and their
       uninsulated prongs are almost prehistoric in terms of design and
       they are notoriously unsafe."
       Is this not true, then? It does come from a "mean" .eu source ;)
       [/quote]
       Nikola,
       Well. If it’s on the internet it’s gotta be true, right? :)
       Seriously though, the US plugs are the goofiest things you’ve
       ever seen. They use to be too small prongs, now they are 3 for
       safety (the third being some kind of ground). But they are
       wobbly and weird. And the prongs are so little and short they
       fall out of their Steckdosen (why am I drawing blank on the
       English word for that?). I’ve had to purposely stretch them by
       hand, or spread them apart so they stay put.
       I never have any problems with the superior German plugs. (Neal
       will say how predictable of SHL to say that undoubtedly). ;)
       #Post#: 19745--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Power Struggle
       By: NealC Date: January 11, 2020, 10:22 pm
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       The old two prongs might not have been as safe, but the newer
       three prong are earthed and unidirectional.  We have had that as
       standard for at least 30 years.
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       Re: Power Struggle
       By: Nikola Date: January 12, 2020, 2:45 pm
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       [quote author=NealC link=topic=1412.msg19745#msg19745
       date=1578802945]
       The old two prongs might not have been as safe, but the newer
       three prong are earthed and unidirectional.  We have had that as
       standard for at least 30 years.
       [/quote]
       Phew.
       Apparently, 120 volts could still kill you, under certain
       circumstances. I find it rather unfortunate considering that it
       struggles to boil a kettle.
       #Post#: 19753--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Power Struggle
       By: SHL Date: January 13, 2020, 5:09 pm
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       [quote author=Nikola link=topic=1412.msg19747#msg19747
       date=1578861936]
       [quote author=NealC link=topic=1412.msg19745#msg19745
       date=1578802945]
       The old two prongs might not have been as safe, but the newer
       three prong are earthed and unidirectional.  We have had that as
       standard for at least 30 years.
       [/quote]
       Phew.
       Apparently, 120 volts could still kill you, under certain
       circumstances. I find it rather unfortunate considering that it
       struggles to boil a kettle.
       [/quote]
       I don’t think those goofy American plugs (they’re used in
       central and parts of South America too) have trouble boiling
       water. But they are wobbly and unsafe and the plugs fall out of
       their holes constantly. My recharger for my iPhone /iPad is
       always falling out. But, now that I think about it, my mom‘s
       house was built in 1967 back when they only had the dangerous 2
       prong set up. I have to check it out when I get home. All newer
       places have the 3 prongs like Neal mentioned which are safer.
       When my old mom passes on and the house is sold, I think we are
       going to have to have all the plugs converted to the 3 prong
       type to be up to building codes to be allowed to sell the house.
       Back in the 60s life was different: not so safety conscience. No
       one wore seatbelts in cars, kids never wore helmets on bikes (I
       never did...we would have laughed at the idea). Who can get hurt
       falling off a bicycle? No motorcycle helmets either and drunk
       driving was a 400$ fine and no loss of your driving license.
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