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       #Post#: 19712--------------------------------------------------
       Power Struggle
       By: Nikola Date: January 4, 2020, 7:06 am
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       Nowadays, it's easy to take electricity for granted but those
       who have travelled overseas will know that access to it can be a
       bit problematic, whether it's due to the location of the
       sockets, their type, additional features or voltage. It's quite
       impressive how power plugs and sockets stubbornly remain
       different across the world.
       Here is a list of all 15 types used around the world
  HTML https://www.worldstandards.eu/electricity/plugs-and-sockets/
       and
       the map below shows which ones are used where.
       [img width=300
       height=152]
  HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/World_map_of_electrical_mains_power_plug_types_used.svg/1280px-World_map_of_electrical_mains_power_plug_types_used.svg.png[/img]
       One of the joys of travelling and especially living abroad is
       getting one's head around the different "plug and socket"
       culture and the adjustments that come with it. A European who
       moves from the continent to the UK will learn to dry their hair
       in the living room or bedroom because sockets are not commonly
       found in bathrooms. They will spend ages wondering what's wrong
       with their device before finally realising the socket needs to
       be turned on using the on/off switch. If this person then moves
       to the US or Canada, they will find themselves asking a refund
       for the new electric kettle they just bought, claiming it's not
       working, before they realise that 100-127 volts won't get you
       very far and you're better off getting a stove-top kettle.
       Have you ever experienced a similar outlet letdown? Have you
       ever travelled without an adaptor and regretted it? And finally,
       does your country have any plug and socket curiosities, such as
       this stackable Soviet adaptor plug?
       [img]
  HTML https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4a/Soviet_power_plug.JPG/220px-Soviet_power_plug.JPG[/img]
       #Post#: 19713--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Power Struggle
       By: SuKi Date: January 4, 2020, 1:20 pm
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       I took my travel kettle to New York and it boiled... eventually.
       A cup of tea which I'd normally make in minutes would take about
       an hour.
       #Post#: 19714--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Power Struggle
       By: Nikola Date: January 4, 2020, 5:02 pm
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       SuKi, did it boil once you stopped watching it? :)
       #Post#: 19716--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Power Struggle
       By: Aliph Date: January 4, 2020, 5:50 pm
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       I have a full collection of useless adaptors. I stopped taking
       them with me. I do not travel with a hair dryer or a tea kettle.
       Strangely, I never had any problem plugging my cellphone in any
       socket starting with my first mythical Nokia to my latest
       smartphone. It’s a mystery to me how it always works, in any
       country I visited. Well, I haven’t been to Afghanistan nor to
       Nigeria.
       #Post#: 19718--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Power Struggle
       By: SHL Date: January 4, 2020, 8:16 pm
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       I like normal German electrical plugs and outlets. I assume they
       are the same throughout Europe, but maybe the UK has different
       ones (it’s been awhile so I can’t recall if they are different.
       I assume so).
       The plugs and outlets in the US are ridiculous and potentially
       dangerous.
       #Post#: 19719--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Power Struggle
       By: SHL Date: January 4, 2020, 8:58 pm
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       [quote author=SuKi link=topic=1412.msg19713#msg19713
       date=1578165643]
       I took my travel kettle to New York and it boiled... eventually.
       A cup of tea which I'd normally make in minutes would take about
       an hour.
       [/quote]
       Suki,
       That’s interesting. Why would it take an hour just to boil
       water?
       In all the traveling I‘ve done I never noticed this. (Even a
       microwave wouldn’t take but a few minutes.)
       I‘m more a coffee drinker myself (I recall being in London in
       1998 to appear as a witness at a trial. The barrister on our
       side, who was a really nice guy, asked me in his office if I
       wanted tea or coffee. When I said coffee he said „How
       predictable.....“ I never forgot that, but I liked him. He was a
       great barrister and his office was right across the street from
       the Royal Courts of Justice- I think that was what it was
       called, right in the center of London).
       Anyway, in Iceland, like most places, they have those little
       water boiler cookers in the hotel.  You flip those on and it
       takes a minute for that water to boil. Just add the tea or
       coffee. So why it would take an hour in NY to boil water is a
       bit baffling.
       #Post#: 19724--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Power Struggle
       By: NealC Date: January 8, 2020, 8:22 am
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       [quote author=SHL link=topic=1412.msg19718#msg19718
       date=1578190604]
       The plugs and outlets in the US are ridiculous and potentially
       dangerous.
       [/quote]
       I would love to hear about this,but I have the vague feeling I
       have heard this from you before.
       #Post#: 19727--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Power Struggle
       By: SuKi Date: January 8, 2020, 4:15 pm
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       SHL asked: Why would it take an hour just to boil water?
       Because I stupidly took a 240v British travel kettle to the US
       expecting it to work. Hadn't realised that the American 110v
       system would have virtually no impact on it.  Like harnessing a
       miniature pony to an armoured tank and wondering why it took so
       long to move.
       And yes, you're right: the anglophone countries of Europe - the
       UK, Ireland and Malta - have different plugs from the rest of
       the continent. Ours are big chunky things with three square
       pins, as opposed to the ones with two round pins that you get in
       other countries. The voltage is more or less the same, though,
       so you can use all the same appliances everywhere in Europe.
       #Post#: 19734--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Power Struggle
       By: SHL Date: January 8, 2020, 11:31 pm
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       [quote author=NealC link=topic=1412.msg19724#msg19724
       date=1578493324]
       [quote author=SHL link=topic=1412.msg19718#msg19718
       date=1578190604]
       The plugs and outlets in the US are ridiculous and potentially
       dangerous.
       [/quote]
       I would love to hear about this,but I have the vague feeling I
       have heard this from you before.
       [/quote]
       Oh Neal, you know how messed up everything is in the US. We even
       still use inches, feet, yards, Fahrenheit. How dumb is that? No
       offense Su.Ki. , but I bet that measurement system is one of
       those dumb things the Brits imported and left us with and
       promptly went home and abandoned themselves. Yet we were too
       stupid to give up on it. Thanks Brits! We appreciate it!  :)
       But, Neal I did listen to a German guy on his YouTube channel
       saying in German how Kookoo the US electrical plugs are and
       dangerous. He was living in San Diego. That’s where I got that
       from.
       #Post#: 19739--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Power Struggle
       By: Nikola Date: January 10, 2020, 3:37 am
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       Neal, I heard it too. It was on the same website I provided a
       link to above:
  HTML https://www.worldstandards.eu/why-no-universal-plug/
       "The reason why the world is now stuck with no less than 15
       different styles of plugs and wall outlets, is because many
       countries preferred to develop a plug of their own, instead of
       adopting the US standard. In one sense those countries were
       actually right, though: the wobbly American plugs and their
       uninsulated prongs are almost prehistoric in terms of design and
       they are notoriously unsafe."
       Is this not true, then? It does come from a "mean" .eu source ;)
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