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       #Post#: 19643--------------------------------------------------
       You should know this!
       By: Nikola Date: December 14, 2019, 10:55 am
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       ... said the teacher fiercely after a student asked a question.
       Does that ring a bell?
       I've been teaching two teenage girls in real life and helping
       them keep up with the pace their English teacher had set. As I
       encourage them to ask, not just me but also at school, when they
       don't understand something, I find that it's not as
       straightforward as I thought. The teacher doesn't explain
       things. I mean, she does, initially, but if someone doesn't
       understand, she says things like "how can you not understand?"
       (very helpful, right? What's one supposed to say to that?) or,
       if it's something more basic, "you should know this". Well, they
       don't. How about that?
       To be fair, I don't think it was any different when I was at
       school. I recall giving up asking questions at a very early
       stage and coming to terms with spending time at a café with a
       friend who had a talent for explaining maths in normal, simple
       words. Do you have a similar experience?
       What I'd really like to ask is: do you think this approach can
       be justified? Is it ever OK for the teacher to say "no, I am not
       explaining this to you"?
       #Post#: 19644--------------------------------------------------
       Re: You should know this!
       By: SHL Date: December 14, 2019, 12:50 pm
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       No, I don’t think it is ever acceptable for a teacher to say
       „you should know this.“ it’s the teacher‘s duty and job to
       assure a student knows what is being taught. People learn at
       different speeds and through different means. The teacher should
       know this or not be a teacher.
       This is especially true with languages. Many students (but not
       all naturally) are fearful of making mistakes while learning a
       foreign language and instead just sit there nodding their heads
       pretending to understand so not to embarrass themselves. The
       approach should be to encourage speaking with or without
       mistakes. The more speaking the better.  The students will self
       correct errors anyway.
       But intimidating students in any learning situation is
       counter-productive.
       #Post#: 19645--------------------------------------------------
       Re: You should know this!
       By: Aliph Date: December 15, 2019, 1:26 pm
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       [quote author=Nikola link=topic=1399.msg19643#msg19643
       date=1576342500]
       Is it ever OK for the teacher to say "no, I am not explaining
       this to you"?
       [/quote]
       That reminds me so much of my authoritarian school.
       I loved going to school, I was a curious child. I always wanted
       to know more and had thousand questions about everything. I
       usually raised my hand, the teacher asked me what I wanted, I
       told him the question that had come to my mind and inevitably
       the teacher yelled “Marotta, fuori dalla porta!” (Marotta go
       out, leave the class!). Teachers called us by our family name
       and we weren’t allowed to digress or disturb the lesson. So
       often, I had to stand in the corridor during the whole class.
       This went on until high school, but then I had stopped asking
       questions. I usually stood quiet, reading the books that I had
       borrowed at the library or simply daydreaming.
       There are still teachers who punish curious children even
       nowadays. I think that those teachers are ignorants who do not
       know the answer.
       #Post#: 19668--------------------------------------------------
       Re: You should know this!
       By: Pasha Date: December 17, 2019, 6:40 am
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       What are you going say? When you had explained  ten times that
       Earth is oblate spheroid and that dumbass would still believe
       that Earth is flat.
       #Post#: 19669--------------------------------------------------
       Re: You should know this!
       By: Nikola Date: December 17, 2019, 11:43 am
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       [quote author=Pasha link=topic=1399.msg19668#msg19668
       date=1576586459]
       What are you going say? When you had explained  ten times that
       Earth is oblate spheroid and that dumbass would still believe
       that Earth is flat.
       [/quote]
       That's adults, though. I think that kids know better.
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