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Hello everyone
By: SHL Date: October 8, 2019, 12:19 pm
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This is my first post in a month or so, so I’m glad to check in
and say hi. No real topic other than to say I’ve been distracted
by gallbladder issues (I have gallstones) diagnosed on
ultrasound after a gallbladder attack lasting 8 hours. A
bacterial infection followed. Gallbladder issues are no joke.
The pain of a gallbladder attack is super intense. Like nothing
you’ve ever felt before (it mostly occurs in women 2/3 of the
time) and more than one woman has said the pain is the same or
worse than childbirth with no anesthesia. I can believe it. It’s
morphin-style pain (which is what hospitals give you for it). My
doc said my bloodwork all looked good and read the ultrasound
report showing gallstones. He didn’t push it, but I asked for a
referral to the surgery department for gladder removal. So he
said okay. The surgery department has been calling me for when I
want an appointment. It’s totally optional, but I’m inclined to
have it done. This same thing happened in the Summer of 2018,
but only lasted then a few hours. This last time it lasted 8
hours and kept me up all night. Should have gone to the
emergency room but the pain went away by 5am, having started at
9:30 (21:30). I sort of want the surgery because I don’t want
this to happen again and wind up in a hospital on a vacation,
even though my medical insurance covers me anywhere in the world
for emergency and urgent care visits. It came on after a fatty
meal (the classic symptoms and trigger).
Anyway, I’m still here and just wanted to leave an update. Hope
everyone is well.
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Re: Hello everyone
By: Pasha Date: October 8, 2019, 2:51 pm
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I am glad you are back. It is kinda too quiet on this forum
without you. Looks like that american fatfood isn't quite good
for not healthy gallbladder and fatty liver.
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Re: Hello everyone
By: Nikola Date: October 8, 2019, 3:07 pm
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That's a very detailed report, Steven. Will there be any
attachments, stool samples etc.?
Anyway, good to see you :)
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Re: Hello everyone
By: SHL Date: October 8, 2019, 3:13 pm
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Thanks Pasha,
Yeah, the Western diet is not good for the gallbladder and fatty
liver is epidemic, like 30% of the population has it, and even
people who don’t drink alcohol. Where alcohol is not the cause,
it’s called Non-Alcoholic Fatty Liver Disease (NAFLD).
Fortunately it’s reversible with a good diet and exercise. The
same situation exists in Europe too, but is much more rare in
most parts of Africa and Asia. Alcohol-related illnesses of the
liver are highest in Russia. They are really off the chart if
you look at a map of it.
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Re: Hello everyone
By: SHL Date: October 8, 2019, 3:22 pm
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[quote author=Nikola link=topic=1376.msg19534#msg19534
date=1570565239]
That's a very detailed report, Steven. Will there be any
attachments, stool samples etc.?
Anyway, good to see you :)
[/quote]
Yeah, maybe too much information, Nikola. Sorry about that. Of
course, I could post my ultrasound report, but won’t :) It’s a
bit technical, more doctor stuff.
But, the good news is gallbladder removal (cholecystectomy) is
easy. 4 holes in your stomach and they put a probe with a light
in and pull the gallbladder out through your belly button.
Sounds fun, huh? Usually, you can go into the hospital and
leave in the evening (it’s a laparoscopic procedure).
I guess there are no wanna- be doctors here, huh? I can tell you
all about adenomyomatosis of the gallbladder and all sorts of
cool stuff :)
Thanks for posting. I frankly would rather go back to talking
about language learning. A lot less stressful.
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Re: Hello everyone
By: NealC Date: October 8, 2019, 4:39 pm
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My first wife used to have terrible attacks lasting hours where
I had to just keep rubbing her back. Not fun.
My mother had it done when it was a huge incision and weeks of
recuperation. First wife was one of the earliest labroscopies,
4 small holes, in a night or two, out fast. Close to 30 years
now, she always thought it was worth it.
I think it is even simpler now, you should have it done. Almost
routine.
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Re: Hello everyone
By: SHL Date: October 8, 2019, 7:36 pm
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[quote author=NealC link=topic=1376.msg19537#msg19537
date=1570570758]
My first wife used to have terrible attacks lasting hours where
I had to just keep rubbing her back. Not fun.
My mother had it done when it was a huge incision and weeks of
recuperation. First wife was one of the earliest labroscopies,
4 small holes, in a night or two, out fast. Close to 30 years
now, she always thought it was worth it.
I think it is even simpler now, you should have it done. Almost
routine.
[/quote]
Thanks Neal.
Yeah, it’s not like the old days where they used to go in and
open you up. It was considered major surgery back then. I mean,
it wasn’t like a liver transplant or something off the charts
extreme, but you did end up with a big scar. Now with it being
laparoscopic like you said, it’s just 4 holes and out the belly
button. Fast recovery too. (Liver transplants are probably the
most complex and difficult operations there are. It takes like a
team of 8 surgeons and 10 hours to do. It’s a pretty amazing
feat when you think about it.)
And you are right too. The gallbladder attacks are absolutely
horrible. That’s the motivation to have it done. After a while
you get afraid to eat, especially in the evenings when these
tend to occur. Was the meal too fatty, too much cheese? Is an
attack going to be triggered? You never know. And, you sure
don’t want one of those. All it takes is a little stone to lodge
in the biliary duct for the gallbladder and block off the exit
of bile and the thing goes into spasms trying to dislodge the
stone. It can take hours to dislodge, or sometimes not at all
requiring emergency intervention. And when that gallbladder
starts to spasm it is indescribable how painful it is. Then if
the stone gets stuck too long an infection sets in (always
bacterial). So yeah, getting the gallbladder is a good idea, if
you need to.
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Re: Hello everyone
By: Bosored Date: October 9, 2019, 10:27 am
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Seriously? You had developed gallbladder stones just to get some
morphine? Damn, you're dedicated. Was it worth it?
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Re: Hello everyone
By: Aliph Date: October 10, 2019, 12:42 am
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[quote author=SHL link=topic=1376.msg19532#msg19532
date=1570555156]
This is my first post in a month or so, so I’m glad to check in
and say hi. No real topic other than to say I’ve been distracted
by gallbladder issues (I have gallstones) diagnosed on
ultrasound after a gallbladder attack lasting 8 hours...
Anyway, I’m still here and just wanted to leave an update. Hope
everyone is well.
[/quote]
Hi SHL, glad to know that the pain is gone for now, must be
really horrible. I do not think that one can compare it with the
pain of giving birth without anesthesia, since that kind of pain
is linked with a joyful purpose and can be dealt with
respiration and is mostly forgotten afterwards with the rush of
endorphins that ensues.
While I imagine that a purposeless pain like a gallbladder
attack must be awful. Of course it has also an aim i.e. to get
rid of gallstones. I have known two people (women) who underwent
surgery and are happy now without even be obliged to follow a
diet.
So I wish you all the best.
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Re: Hello everyone
By: SHL Date: October 11, 2019, 6:56 pm
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[quote author=Nobody link=topic=1376.msg19543#msg19543
date=1570686155]
[quote author=SHL link=topic=1376.msg19532#msg19532
date=1570555156]
This is my first post in a month or so, so I’m glad to check in
and say hi. No real topic other than to say I’ve been distracted
by gallbladder issues (I have gallstones) diagnosed on
ultrasound after a gallbladder attack lasting 8 hours...
Anyway, I’m still here and just wanted to leave an update. Hope
everyone is well.
[/quote]
Hi SHL, glad to know that the pain is gone for now, must be
really horrible. I do not think that one can compare it with the
pain of giving birth without anesthesia, since that kind of pain
is linked with a joyful purpose and can be dealt with
respiration and is mostly forgotten afterwards with the rush of
endorphins that ensues.
While I imagine that a purposeless pain like a gallbladder
attack must be awful. Of course it has also an aim i.e. to get
rid of gallstones. I have known two people (women) who underwent
surgery and are happy now without even be obliged to follow a
diet.
So I wish you all the best.
[/quote]
Yes, thanks. You made a good point. At least there’s a pay off
with childbirth. There sure isn’t one with a gallbladder attack.
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