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On line Friendship And EGP
By: Chizuko hanji Date: September 11, 2019, 12:00 am
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I had been absent from EGP in August and I hadn't read many
discussions. I read Nikola's discussion about Online Friendship
just now.
HTML https://evengreener.createaforum.com/general-discussion/online-friendships/#ratethis
It is a very interesting thread. I learned the various thought
about internet friends and how we should care about the dead
people of social media there.
Now that again, what is EGP friendship for me? Is it a place to
feel friendship? Is it just a discussion forum?
Let me tell you something,
When this site started, I didn't think to join because English
is too difficult for me. But someone asked me to participate. I
almost gave up to continue as I couldn't understand their posts.
Then someones encouraged to continue again. When I was absent
for a while this summer, someone sent me messages and introduced
very interesting discussions and I came back again.
How can I name this? Are there any words except for "Friendship"
for describing EGP? Are you joining for just learning languages?
I'm not for only that.
I think all the members here are friends.
Friends sometimes argue and fight.
Friends always listen to each other to make up the relationship.
Either of meeting them in person, or exchanging skype ID, it
does not matter to me that much. Because I can know how
wonderful people you are as friends on EGP.
If you want to discuss, you can visit Quora and there are
thousands of viewers. If you want to learn languages, you can go
to any sites. In my opinion, EGP is the site where you meet
friends and talk, think and laugh with them.
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Re: On line Friendship And EGP
By: Nikola Date: September 11, 2019, 3:03 am
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[quote author=Chizuko link=topic=1363.msg19396#msg19396
date=1568178000]
In my opinion, EGP is the site where you meet friends and talk,
think and laugh with them.
[/quote]
I think this was the idea. Why it sometimes turns out to be such
a challenging thing to do, I am not sure. This is just a tool,
it has no personality of its own. It's only as good or as bad as
the people who post here. EGP could be a fun, easy-going forum,
if we allowed it to be. I'd like that.
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Re: On line Friendship And EGP
By: Chizuko hanji Date: September 11, 2019, 8:08 am
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I just wrote something, but I couldn't express well. and I'm
sorry but I deleted it.
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Re: On line Friendship And EGP
By: Chizuko hanji Date: September 11, 2019, 10:43 am
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Looking back at the time when this site was made, most of the
members wanted to discuss freely from the culture to politics
because we were kicked out of the i**lk. Unfortunately, I don't
know how to discuss well and I'm likely to be away suddenly.
But when I came back here, I feel your friendship, different
from i**lk and Q**ra.
How about you, everyone? Do you feel anything particular?
At the end of last year, the rumor that i**lk's discussion
forum would be removed came around and I felt nostalgy since I
made friends there. But for now, I wouldn't feel anything even
if it was gone. Because I can't see any interesting people there
except for a few members who have been regulars since before.
Somehow, I feel close to EGP even though I can't post every day.
I feel sad that some people left EGP. I hope they are reading
EGP as even guests still now and they will come back and join
talking again.
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Re: On line Friendship And EGP
By: SHL Date: September 11, 2019, 1:39 pm
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[quote author=Chizuko link=topic=1363.msg19399#msg19399
date=1568216625]
Looking back at the time when this site was made, most of the
members wanted to discuss freely from the culture to politics
because we were kicked out of the i**lk. Unfortunately, I don't
know how to discuss well and I'm likely to be away suddenly.
But when I came back here, I feel your friendship, different
from i**lk and Q**ra.
How about you, everyone? Do you feel anything particular?
At the end of last year, the rumor that i**lk's discussion
forum would be removed came around and I felt nostalgy since I
made friends there. But for now, I wouldn't feel anything even
if it was gone. Because I can't see any interesting people there
except for a few members who have been regulars since before.
Somehow, I feel close to EGP even though I can't post every day.
I feel sad that some people left EGP. I hope they are reading
EGP as even guests still now and they will come back and join
talking again.
[/quote]
Very excellent post Chizuko and good points.
It is regrettable that some have left the forum or rarely
contribute (although I suspect we have several lurkers). But, I
am optimist that more will show up and participate in the
future. The door is always open.
The terms „friends“ or „friendship“ are terms I tend to use
rather loosely in English. My second language, German,
distinguishes between friends (Freunde) and a term roughly
translated in English as „acquaintances“ (Bekannte). I won‘t get
into a German lesson over it, but you have to be very careful
not to use „Freund/in“ the wrong way because it can mean either
a close friend or boyfriend/girlfriend, depending on how it is
said and give someone the wrong impression of your perception of
a relationship between people.
I had an internet „friend“ once, someone I had never met
personally and only knew through the internet and called him a
„friend.“ I immediately got a tutorial, which I thought was
rather rude, about how we were not „friends“, that we had not
met personally and lived too far away to socialize. This came as
a bit of a shock to me since I live in California and he was in
Michigan at the time. Two native English speakers from the US
with two completely different ideas of what a „friend“ is or
means. So, I had to change the terminology and refer to the
person as a mentor or use a substitute word.
I think that people can be internet friends. That doesn’t mean
they will ever meet, and it doesn’t mean they ever have. I
personally see nothing wrong with it.
I consider people here at EGP as online friends. I would not say
that about people I know only from Italki, and I would certainly
not apply that to anyone on Quora, a place I do not visit
anyway.
People here are extraordinarily nice and helpful (like you and
Nikola), and Jerry and Neal too (in spite of some of the past
exchanges). That’s enough in English for me to call them
internet friends as well. I will toss in the internet phrase
because there obviously is a difference between friends you have
or will meet and those you likely will not.
But this is a great place and I have found a lot or warmth and
support from the people here.
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Re: On line Friendship And EGP
By: Sepideh Date: September 11, 2019, 3:21 pm
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Hi Chiziko,
I still can not believe that 3 years just passed since I joined
italki and then here on EGP. I am imaging the time who am not in
my 20s anymore and am telling a story to my grandchildren
regarding the topics, events, and those who spoke time by time
here(I will be a 70-year-old woman? Oh my gosh!). Although I
met neither of you, I can imagine you one by one.
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Re: On line Friendship And EGP
By: SHL Date: September 11, 2019, 3:52 pm
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[quote author=Sepideh link=topic=1363.msg19401#msg19401
date=1568233294]
Hi Chiziko,
I still can not believe that 3 years just passed since I joined
italki and then here on EGP. I am imaging the time who am not in
my 20s anymore and am telling a story to my grandchildren
regarding the topics, events, and those who spoke time by time
here(I will be a 70-year-old woman? Oh my gosh!). Although I
met neither of you, I can imagine you one by one.
[/quote]
I am glad you are here too, Sepideh, I‘m sure like everyone
else.
Enjoy your youth (being in your 20s, because, as much as we
think otherwise at that age, the time goes by much faster than
we realize).
As they say, „don’t commit the sin of squandering time.“
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Re: On line Friendship And EGP
By: Chizuko hanji Date: September 11, 2019, 10:00 pm
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We have to be gentle because we are friends. If we fight, we
know how to fix it,
right?
We are with EGP, "Even Greater Peers". Let's talk and laugh
again!
Wait...what does Peers mean? I thought it meant Friends.
Cambridge dictionary says,
[quote]someone who is the same age, or who has the same social
position or abilities as other members of a group
[/quote]
Does it make sense if I use Peers for my EGP friends? The same
age? It might be a little bit wrong. hehe!
Anyway,
Peers, Cheers!
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Re: On line Friendship And EGP
By: MartinSR Date: September 12, 2019, 2:33 pm
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I wanted to click the "Agree" button under everything you've
written here Chizuko,... but the version of EGP I see on my
phone doesn't allow me to use these buttons for a few last weeks
(I have no idea why).
To the point. I like to treat people met online as friends. Not
all of them of course. But on sites like this one, where we talk
(or write) in a relatively small group - I see you all as a
kind of friends. It's not like friends we meet regularly to have
a BBQ or just beer together (I have no such friends because of
my busy schedule, actually my wife is my only real friend), but
it's better than just a person we know (we see sometimes).
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Re: On line Friendship And EGP
By: Aliph Date: September 14, 2019, 6:30 am
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[quote author=Chizuko link=topic=1363.msg19409#msg19409
date=1568257257]
We have to be gentle because we are friends.
[/quote]
I think that we should be gentle because we should have good
manners. Some cultures, like yours, seem to be able to instill
good manners already from the cradle.
Groundless attacks and criticism on one‘s supposed lifestyle
have nothing to do neither with gentleness, friendship nor
netiquette. There are some rules about the acceptable way of
communicating on the web. Some seem to ignore them.
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