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       Iceland’s economy takes major hit as tourism drops due to WOW
       air’s demise..
   DIR By: SHL
       Date: September 5, 2019, 3:32 pm
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       I thought this was sort of an interesting story. Iceland’s
       tourism industry boomed until WOW air went bankrupt this year.
       Bad business planning and over-expansion far too fast is
       probably what did it.
       I flew them in 2016, 2017, and 2018 to Germany. The first time I
       swore I’d never fly them again. I thought it was worth a few
       hundred extra bucks to be comfortable and have a break in the
       trip, so I picked Iceland for a layover because it was the
       closest European travel destination from San Francisco. I always
       thought it was amazing that a country of only 325,000 could
       operate two big airlines and it was obvious that the travel
       industry was the major economic force in the country. But with
       tourism down, Iceland could slide back into the recession it had
       in 2008.
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       Re: Iceland’s economy takes major hit as tourism drops due to
       WOW air’s demise..
   DIR By: Pasha
       Date: September 6, 2019, 7:19 am
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       It is not a bad thing. If they go into recession, their currency
       will devalue and their stuff will get cheaper. Steve, next time
       when you go to Germany, cost of staying in Iceland hotels will
       be less.
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       Re: Iceland’s economy takes major hit as tourism drops due to
       WOW air’s demise..
   DIR By: NealC
       Date: September 6, 2019, 7:42 am
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       I am not sure that low price air travel is the right market
       position for tourism to Iceland, and the whole "Gateway to
       Europe" thing leaves me flat.
       It will be interesting to see what comes of this.
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       Re: Iceland’s economy takes major hit as tourism drops due to
       WOW air’s demise..
   DIR By: SHL
       Date: September 6, 2019, 10:08 am
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       --- Quote from: NealC link ---
       >
       > I am not sure that low price air travel is the right market
       position for tourism to Iceland, and the whole "Gateway to
       Europe" thing leaves me flat.
       > It will be interesting to see what comes of this.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Yes, I always found their marketing strategy odd. Low airfares
       to Iceland and Europe from the US. And to Iceland and the rest
       of Europe. But, if you stay in Iceland as a tourist, it’s one of
       the most expensive places in Europe to be. A hamburger with
       fries for 26,00$ USD? A 3-star hotel room for $250 a night? Not
       cheap. That’s why I only stayed one night. But that one night
       each way added 500$ USD to the travel cost.
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       Re: Iceland’s economy takes major hit as tourism drops due to
       WOW air’s demise..
   DIR By: NealC
       Date: September 6, 2019, 10:39 am
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       They might be better served as an expensive/exclusive
       destination.  Permits needed to visit their ecologically
       important sites.
       Perhaps a separate airline to handle the "Gateway to Europe"
       stuff, with an inexpensive hotel attached to the airport.  No
       exit visa from that hotel, only transfer.
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       Re: Iceland’s economy takes major hit as tourism drops due to
       WOW air’s demise..
   DIR By: NealC
       Date: September 6, 2019, 10:44 am
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       On a related topic, one of the reasons air travel is down to
       Iceland is they have 9 of the 737 max aircraft still grounded
       due to the Boeing software glitch.
       This is a big problem now and Boeing stands to lose a lot of
       credibility in the market.  It was one thing to have a problem
       in the product, but their customers are waiting how many months
       with grounded airplanes?  Wasn't it the beginning of the year?
       This might really bite Boeing in the ass
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       Re: Iceland’s economy takes major hit as tourism drops due to
       WOW air’s demise..
   DIR By: Nikola
       Date: September 6, 2019, 10:55 am
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       There's still Norwegian. I flew with them last year from Prague
       to New York JFK with a short layover in Oslo. It cost me $180. I
       thought that was the ultimate gateway to the US. I wouldn't want
       to stay in Oslo, though, it's probably as expensive as Iceland.
       I bought a sandwich at the airport, thinking "that's my budget
       for tomorrow, gone".
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       Re: Iceland’s economy takes major hit as tourism drops due to
       WOW air’s demise..
   DIR By: SHL
       Date: September 6, 2019, 12:51 pm
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       --- Quote from: NealC link ---
       >
       > On a related topic, one of the reasons air travel is down to
       Iceland is they have 9 of the 737 max aircraft still grounded
       due to the Boeing software glitch.
       >
       > This is a big problem now and Boeing stands to lose a lot of
       credibility in the market.  It was one thing to have a problem
       in the product, but their customers are waiting how many months
       with grounded airplanes?  Wasn't it the beginning of the year?
       >
       > This might really bite Boeing in the ass
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       When Boeing didn’t get their 737MAXs back in the air within a
       month, I said this is going to be a major hit on Boeing. It’s
       could put them on the verge of going under. The 737MAX has been
       grounded over 6 months now. Some have said it might be back in
       service before the end of the year. Others have said 2020.
       Either way, it is going to cause major problems for Boeing and
       lawsuits over revenue losses by their customers.
       I had to take a EuroAtlantic 767 last August from Berlin to
       Reykjavik, which Icelandair chartered, because their 737MAX
       fleet was grounded. The crew was half Portuguese and half
       Icelandic.
       That’s a Portuguese airline, but I have never seen smaller seats
       in my life on a plane, outside of their business class. It was a
       very unpleasant 3 hours. I can't imagine they would fly one of
       those across the Atlantic.
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       Re: Iceland’s economy takes major hit as tourism drops due to
       WOW air’s demise..
   DIR By: SHL
       Date: September 6, 2019, 1:00 pm
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       --- Quote from: Nikola link ---
       >
       > There's still Norwegian. I flew with them last year from
       Prague to New York JFK with a short layover in Oslo. It cost me
       $180. I thought that was the ultimate gateway to the US. I
       wouldn't want to stay in Oslo, though, it's probably as
       expensive as Iceland. I bought a sandwich at the airport,
       thinking "that's my budget for tomorrow, gone".
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Flights to New York are much shorter from Europe than from the
       West Coast. I think a London to NY flight is only like 7 hours
       or something. It’s like 11 to San Francisco, a huge difference.
       That’s why a mid-way layover point is something I choose. I
       couldn’t imagine sitting on a plane for 11 or more hours.
       40 years ago, no one went As a tourist to Iceland. It was just a
       1 hour stopover in route to Luxembourg, usually from the East
       Coast or Chicago, and the airfare was the lowest going. It was
       an exotic destination and a charming place with an economy based
       on fishing and raising sheep. Hardly anyone even heard of
       Reykjavik.
       I always lamented that it turned into a tourist destination over
       the last 5 years. In a way I rather hope it recovers it’s sense
       of isolation and charm and can build an economy on something
       other than tourism.
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