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Parts of a Tree
By: Nikola Date: August 25, 2019, 11:54 am
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I'd like to discuss the words for different parts of a tree and
their homonyms in various languages because I suspect there is a
symbolic quality to them that has allowed people to create
(often abstract) expressions for lots of things (a branch for
example). Can you tell us the names of different parts of a tree
in your language or one you're familiar with, and see if any of
them have other meanings, unrelated to trees?
Here's a picture with numbers but feel free to come up with
parts that aren't highlighted or shown if they're worth
mentioning:
[img width=264
height=300]
HTML http://rysava.websnadno.cz/prvouka_1.roc/jarnistrom.jpg[/img]
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Re: Parts of a Tree
By: Nikola Date: August 26, 2019, 4:02 am
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Here are some examples in Czech:
1. kořen (kořeny pl.): in the plural form refers to
family origins, similarly to English. Kořen is also the
basic part of a word that doesn't change.
2. kmen: a tribe, also a level of classification in biology
(equivalent to phylum) and part of a word that includes
kořen.
3. větev: sometimes refers to a field of
study/specialisation within a school (humanitní větev),
also used in genealogy (similar to bloodline, I believe).
4. list: a sheet of paper and an outdated word for letter - the
postman used to be called listonoš (literally the
leaf-carrier).
5. květ: -
6. koruna: the thing the king has on his head, the Czech
currency (also used in Scandinavian countries), Koruna
Česká refers to the Czech lands in the medieval and early
modern periods
HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lands_of_the_Bohemian_Crown,<br
/>korunka (diminutive) in dentistry is an artificial part of a
tooth that sits on what's left of your original tooth. There's
also an idiom: nasadit něčemu korunu (to put a crown
onto something): usually sarcastic, to say you were already
doing something stupid and embarrassing yourself in the process
and then you did one last thing, taking the embarrassment to
another level.
I think many of these also apply to English. Please share your
words and meanings, it doesn't matter if no one here is learning
your language and you don't have to be a linguist. Just share
whatever you can think of.
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Re: Parts of a Tree
By: Chizuko hanji Date: August 27, 2019, 5:44 am
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Roots ルーツ: It is pronounced like the
English word. (actually Japanese say Loots with wrong
pronunciation. ;D ) We didn't use this word as describing your
original people and things, ancestor or original cultures and so
on. We used to say 祖先(sosen) for people and
起源（kigen) for things. But these days, most
Japanese use the word "roots". It sounds ok but, I prefer
original Japaneses word 祖先. If I heard someone
said "My Loots is from..." , even though he was a 100% Japanese,
it would sound like he might have Loots from somewhere in
Europe. It's funny to me. ;D
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Re: Parts of a Tree
By: Chizuko hanji Date: August 27, 2019, 5:56 am
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2. 幹（miki/kan)
It means a main and importunate part. If it broke, the other
parts would be going to collapse. The famous Japanese bullet
train is called 新幹線（shin kan
sen)。If 新幹線 had problems, all
Japanese would worry that Japan might be falling down. I'm
saying seriously.
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Re: Parts of a Tree
By: Nikola Date: August 27, 2019, 1:45 pm
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@Chizuko
No wonder Japanese people get R and L mixed up if they borrow an
expression from English and change the first letter :D Any idea
why this happens? I thought you had R in Japanese (nigiri,
ryokan, arigato) or is it pronounced differently?
Thank you for "kan", I had no idea that part of the word for the
bullet train was also part of a tree.
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Re: Parts of a Tree
By: Chizuko hanji Date: August 27, 2019, 9:11 pm
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Nikola
I have R sound, but most Japanese don't as they can't speak
English. Arigato is actually pronounced nearly aLigato. It' s a
mystery why it is written aRigato in romaji. Japanese can't
pronounce both R and L in English properly anyway
When a Japanese want to say "I eat rice", it sounds like, "I eat
lice".
"Karate" as Japanese martial arts is pronounced "Kalate" in
Japanese. It has changed to "Karit" by foreigners now. When I
heard "karit" for the first time, I didn't know what it was. :D
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Re: Parts of a Tree
By: MartinSR Date: September 6, 2019, 5:49 pm
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In Polish:
Korzeń, pień, gałąź, kwiat,
liść, korona.
The meanings not referring to a tree are similar to those in
Czech...
...maybe except for the leaf:
Leaf = liść
Letter = list (and a postman is "listonosz" too).
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Re: Parts of a Tree
By: MartinSR Date: September 6, 2019, 5:54 pm
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And adding other meaning to a flower.
Kwiat rycerstwa (literally : flower of chivalry), kwiat
młodzieży (flower of youth).
I think there is also similar meaning in English, like in the
Scottish anthem "The flower of Scotland"
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