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       #Post#: 19208--------------------------------------------------
       Cyber bullying: a small foretaste of it   
       By: Aliph Date: August 19, 2019, 2:35 am
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       Yesterday I read about the story of a young girl that committed
       suicide after she was bullied on some social media. Her parents
       are now trying to raise the awareness among people about this
       problem.
       Yesterday I had the impression that I felt a tiny little bit
       what it does mean to be bullied on a social media. In real life
       it rarely happens to me or probably I know how to handle. I
       rarely feel attacked in an unjust way.
       But yesterday, I wrote a comment after SuKi had posted about a
       friend’s son who was arrested in California. That story reminded
       me of what happened to close friends in the same US state. SHL
       said that it was impossible and the Ape Known as the Former
       Artist wrote that those people were telling lies. I tried to
       argue and Jerry in a nasty  way attacked me for the second time
       in less than two months.
       I could have done as I usually do when something bothers me on
       this forum: try to make a diversion, start a thread about a
       language problem. Ha, ha there is one about jealousy and envy...
       What a coincidence.
       But not this time. I felt bullied in a way and offended since
       Jerry made general comments about what I write, the people I
       frequent, my supposed privileged life etc.
       In a way he helped me to understand how a young person who
       doesn’t have a certain life experience could feel after being
       bullied in front of everybody.
       If you missed the episode, here is the link.
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       #Post#: 19212--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cyber bullying: a small foretaste of it   
       By: Nikola Date: August 19, 2019, 4:19 am
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       Sofia, I think the problem is that in the past, there were at
       least two occasions that could be interpreted as bullying (and
       far more serious than what happened to you: verbal abuse and
       abuse of power) where you openly expressed support to the
       aggressor, preached forgiveness and argued that anyone can have
       a bad day. Did your views change now that you feel you're the
       one being targeted or do you still feel that forgiveness is the
       way to go? If you've changed your mind and want this issue
       addressed, let us know what you'd like us to do and we can talk
       about it. I've been consistently against bullying and I've made
       it very clear on a number of occasions that everyone's feelings
       should be taken into consideration and no one should suffer in
       silence.
       #Post#: 19217--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cyber bullying: a small foretaste of it   
       By: Truman Overby Date: August 19, 2019, 7:11 am
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       [quote author=Sofia link=topic=1341.msg19208#msg19208
       date=1566200154]
       the Ape Known as the Former Artist
       [/quote]
       Sounds like cyber-bullying to me.
       #Post#: 19220--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cyber bullying: a small foretaste of it   
       By: Aliph Date: August 19, 2019, 5:14 pm
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       [quote author=Nikola link=topic=1341.msg19212#msg19212
       date=1566206391]
       Sofia, I think the problem is that in the past, there were at
       least two occasions that could be interpreted as bullying (and
       far more serious than what happened to you: verbal abuse and
       abuse of power) where you openly expressed support to the
       aggressor, preached forgiveness and argued that anyone can have
       a bad day. Did your views change now that you feel you're the
       one being targeted or do you still feel that forgiveness is the
       way to go? If you've changed your mind and want this issue
       addressed, let us know what you'd like us to do and we can talk
       about it. I've been consistently against bullying and I've made
       it very clear on a number of occasions that everyone's feelings
       should be taken into consideration and no one should suffer in
       silence.
       [/quote]
       Please delete my account. It seems impossible for me to do it.
       This board is even getting worse than italki.
       #Post#: 19221--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cyber bullying: a small foretaste of it   
       By: SHL Date: August 19, 2019, 7:24 pm
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       [quote author=Nobody link=topic=1341.msg19220#msg19220
       date=1566252892]
       [quote author=Nikola link=topic=1341.msg19212#msg19212
       date=1566206391]
       Sofia, I think the problem is that in the past, there were at
       least two occasions that could be interpreted as bullying (and
       far more serious than what happened to you: verbal abuse and
       abuse of power) where you openly expressed support to the
       aggressor, preached forgiveness and argued that anyone can have
       a bad day. Did your views change now that you feel you're the
       one being targeted or do you still feel that forgiveness is the
       way to go? If you've changed your mind and want this issue
       addressed, let us know what you'd like us to do and we can talk
       about it. I've been consistently against bullying and I've made
       it very clear on a number of occasions that everyone's feelings
       should be taken into consideration and no one should suffer in
       silence.
       [/quote]
       Please delete my account. It seems impossible for me to do it.
       This board is even getting worse than italki.
       [/quote]
       I think we would do well with a working definition of
       cyberbullying. What is it exactly and how do we avoid it?
       I don’t think one has to believe every story told and to
       question it is cyberbullying.
       I had a client in last week who has a 2-year old son with a
       woman he never married.  They live about 6 hours away from each
       other, and share 50-50 custody of the boy, on a week-on-week-off
       basis. There’s a possibility the mother is taking crystal
       methamphetamine because her behavior is so bizarre.
       Last week, while the child was with her, she text messaged my
       client a one-line message, repeated 196 times in one day: it was
       “F*ck you.” My client printed it out from his phone and this one
       message went on for 7 pages. Then the message switched to “I
       hate you, I hate you, I hate you........” That was sent 118
       times in one day.
       Then there were facebook posts with similar content.
       THAT is cyberbullying.When I saw these messages I thought “This
       woman is completely out of her mind” and I filed the paperwork
       to get a retraining order/no contact order for my client, which
       the Judge granted. I told him just to attach a few pages of
       these messages and explain the numbers of times he was getting
       this each day. Every once in a while, he would intervene and try
       to say “Briley, calm down.” But those words fell on deaf ears.
       That’s cyberbullying and retraining order stuff. Not simply
       saying “I don’t or can’t believe the story without more facts.”
       That’s just a reasonable inquiry.
       #Post#: 19225--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cyber bullying: a small foretaste of it   
       By: Nikola Date: August 20, 2019, 6:08 am
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       [quote author=Nobody link=topic=1341.msg19220#msg19220
       date=1566252892]
       [quote author=Nikola link=topic=1341.msg19212#msg19212
       date=1566206391]
       Sofia, I think the problem is that in the past, there were at
       least two occasions that could be interpreted as bullying (and
       far more serious than what happened to you: verbal abuse and
       abuse of power) where you openly expressed support to the
       aggressor, preached forgiveness and argued that anyone can have
       a bad day. Did your views change now that you feel you're the
       one being targeted or do you still feel that forgiveness is the
       way to go? If you've changed your mind and want this issue
       addressed, let us know what you'd like us to do and we can talk
       about it. I've been consistently against bullying and I've made
       it very clear on a number of occasions that everyone's feelings
       should be taken into consideration and no one should suffer in
       silence.
       [/quote]
       Please delete my account. It seems impossible for me to do it.
       This board is even getting worse than italki.
       [/quote]
       Sorry Sofia, I can't do this. Only Neal can do it. He should be
       back soon. You've been offered support, that's all I can do
       within the ethos of this forum. If you believe italki did more
       to support you, that makes it a better site indeed. Most things
       aren't black and white and the same goes for EGP. I'd like to
       think that you'll also remember the good times when you think of
       us one day.
       #Post#: 19226--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cyber bullying: a small foretaste of it   
       By: Chizuko hanji Date: August 20, 2019, 10:21 am
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       Nikola, I appreciate your organizing EGP.
       #Post#: 19228--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Cyber bullying: a small foretaste of it   
       By: Nikola Date: August 20, 2019, 3:09 pm
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       @Chizuko
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