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       #Post#: 18926--------------------------------------------------
       Male - Female relations. Where is the limit between what's appro
       priate and what is not...?
       By: MartinSR Date: August 5, 2019, 9:58 am
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       After reading a few of the last discussions, especially this
       posted by @Sepideh about girl's possibilities of self-defence
       and this by @SHL commenting the beauty of an stewardess, I came
       to the conclusion that the border between the appropriate and
       inappropriate behaviour may depend on the culture of the
       community.
       I don't want to defend men doing sometimes disgusting things.
       And I don't want to discuss here obvious things like sexual
       assaults, touching someone's private parts, verbal aggression
       and so on...
       I want to direct my question to the female members of this
       forum. What will you expect from the man met on the street and
       what behaviour would you consider at least inappropriate one?
       To be more specific... you probably know there are many patterns
       of our (men's) behaviour. There are men who will embrace the
       woman they met for the first time (let's say just introduced by
       a friend of both) and kiss her both cheeks. On the other hand
       there are men who will not even shake hands with a wife or
       girlfriend of their male friends, even though they know each
       other for a long time.
       So what kind of behaviour would you expect:
       - from a man you met the first time (at work, at the party, ...)
       - from your colleague at work/school
       - from your friend (close or more distant)
       - from your relative (close or distant).
       Would you accept a compliment about the way you look like from a
       stranger/friend?
       #Post#: 18931--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Male - Female relations. Where is the limit between what's a
       ppropriate and what is not...?
       By: SHL Date: August 5, 2019, 10:18 am
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       MartinSR,
       I do handshakes. Very polite and formal. Ok, my eyes might look
       a bit too long at a pretty female stewardess but what’s wrong
       with that?
       The eyes cannot trespass, as we say.
       #Post#: 18934--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Male - Female relations. Where is the limit between what's a
       ppropriate and what is not...?
       By: MartinSR Date: August 5, 2019, 10:34 am
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       [quote author=SHL link=topic=1306.msg18931#msg18931
       date=1565018287]
       MartinSR,
       I do handshakes. Very polite and formal. Ok, my eyes might look
       a bit too long at a pretty female stewardess but what’s wrong
       with that?
       The eyes cannot trespass, as we say.
       [/quote]
       I agree that handshake seems to be the safest option. But I
       already was in situations feeling a little bit more was
       expected. On the other hand theoretically the woman is the side
       allowed to initiate a handshake (at least I was taught that at
       school), but sometimes she doesn't (usually when I'm a bit
       older, but not so much, and I'm not her boss, teacher or sth
       like that)... and a short embarrassing pause occurs.
       And what to do in a different country, with different culture.
       I usually start with shaking my head, lowering it in respect.
       Sometimes smile... but I heard the smile can be considered too
       informal in certain communities.
       #Post#: 18955--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Male - Female relations. Where is the limit between what's a
       ppropriate and what is not...?
       By: Nikola Date: August 5, 2019, 4:03 pm
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       1. A man I met for the first time - a handshake as you introduce
       yourselves.
       2. A colleague. This is tricky because I don't think I would hug
       my colleagues if I worked in an office but because of the nature
       of the job I used to do (stressful situations, occasional
       violence and medical emergencies), people who felt they could
       rely on each other would hug and not just at the end of the
       school year, sometimes even throughout the day.
       3. A friend - I hug some of my friends and I just say "hi" to
       those who don't like being touched.
       4. A relative - We don't hug in our family. I am actually more
       likely to hug someone not so closely related than my parents.
       I don't mind compliments from strangers but they do make me
       wonder what that person wants. My friends usually really mean it
       when they say something so I then either say "thank you" (I was
       told this was an appropriate response) or explain to them why
       they're wrong (I was told I should be doing less of this).
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