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Re: I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government S
ecurity Forces
By: SHL Date: August 5, 2019, 5:42 pm
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[quote author=NealC link=topic=1300.msg18943#msg18943
date=1565026108]
I would say almost no one does this, especially without the
stewardess knowing.
[/quote]
I agree Neal. That was dumb of me. Super-dumb. But, I can‘t
unring the bell as they say.
But, everything I said about the US government being bullies is
true. There‘s no exaggeration there. They bully everyone. Then
they pick you out if you are outside the country to decide if
they will left you back in with their SSSS stamp, even if you
have a US Passport. Can you imagine that? The indignity of it
all. What other country in the world treats its people this way?
My gosh. This is insane.
#Post#: 18966--------------------------------------------------
Re: I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government S
ecurity Forces
By: Aliph Date: August 5, 2019, 5:48 pm
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[quote author=SHL link=topic=1300.msg18927#msg18927
date=1565017323]
I just got the once over treatment with these test strips. I
don’t know what the were but they were explosive device detector
things I was told. They smelled liked alcohol strips. They can
detect certain explosive residue? I never heard of any such
thing.
[/quote]
This tests strips are for drugs. Apparently c*oca*in I was told
once by an airport security agent who checked them on me.
#Post#: 18968--------------------------------------------------
Re: I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government S
ecurity Forces
By: SHL Date: August 5, 2019, 6:44 pm
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[quote author=Sofia link=topic=1300.msg18966#msg18966
date=1565045301]
[quote author=SHL link=topic=1300.msg18927#msg18927
date=1565017323]
I just got the once over treatment with these test strips. I
don’t know what the were but they were explosive device detector
things I was told. They smelled liked alcohol strips. They can
detect certain explosive residue? I never heard of any such
thing.
[/quote]
This tests strips are for drugs. Apparently c*oca*in I was told
once by an airport security agent who checked them on me.
[/quote]
That’s not surprising. I’m sure they are checking for
everything.
I was going to show the guy my high blood pressure pills, my
Xanax for anxiety, my Ambien so I can go to sleep, my Lipitor to
lower my cholesterol (and that cardiologist has got me on the
maximum dose, so I am cutting those damn horse pills in half,
because they make you sleepy all day and then he told me he
wanted me on the maximum dose, and I told him I don’t need that
much and he said take it anyway (he doesn’t like me arguing with
him) and then that cardiologist gave me a bottle of
nitroglycerin pills, in case I get chest pains, and says if I
start getting get pains to take one, if they don’t go away on
the first, take a second, if not on the third, go to the
hospital ASAP. Boy, he’s a ray of hope. Strangely the
nitroglycerin pills don’t trigger any alarms. Maybe because they
are pharmaceutical grade?
But, I‘ll tell you one thing, Sofia, I learned never volunteer
anything to these people. Just be cooperative (nice but not too
nice- all business) only speak when spoken to. Never lie to them
about anything, of course, but never pull out all your
prescription pills and show them. I think that would just
confuse them. I carry them in the pharmacy bottles with the
labels and the doctor‘s name and everything on them, but I
didn‘t open up my carrying case for all these pills because it
would look like I was carrying a well-stocked pharmacy in my
carry on bag. And these people don’t know anything about all my
pills and what they are doing for me or anything. So, I never
said a thing about them, and the guy never even looked in my
carrying case.
But, yeah, they were probably checking for all that weird
illegal stuff. I don’t understand the random shake down business
though. It sounds kind of arbitrary to me. The must have some
reason to suspect some people and not others.
#Post#: 18978--------------------------------------------------
Re: I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government S
ecurity Forces
By: Susan Date: August 6, 2019, 12:37 pm
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That sad face on NealC´s post was supposed to be the ¨funny.¨
SHL-- If you have Netflix, you might want to watch what I think
is called ¨The Grand Hack¨ in English. I have watched the first
part of it, where they talk about Cambridge Analytics and how
they helped with Brexit and with Trump's campaign. They claimed
to have 5, 000 data points on every U.S. citizen. As I
understand it, these datapoints would include things like
cookies of sites you have visited, things you have shared, etc.
With all the crap articles you post here, I believe that many of
your 5,000 or so data points would be significantly different
than the average U.S. citizen. Why would you think it is here
that they are specifically monitoring? I would guess what they
would use would be much more automated, more like what Cambridge
Analytics did. I assume that it isn´t so much dominated by what
you write on a particular board-- that U.S. securi ty would look
for patterns of what you are looking at. For those of us who
often don´t use a VPN, I don´t doubt a lot of data is available
to those organizations with the know-how to exploit it-- and
don´t doubt there could be several, or many organizations trying
to use data. The U.S. government is just your particular
choice of who to be paranoid of. And you love to (or feel
comlelled to) share that paranoia here.
#Post#: 18982--------------------------------------------------
Re: I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government S
ecurity Forces
By: SHL Date: August 6, 2019, 3:31 pm
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Thanks Susan,
I use a VPN but you know the US Government is immune from
anti-spying equipment on your computer. If they are competing
with China and Russia on internet monitoring, you know they can
read anything you or I write anywhere on the internet.
Snowden proved that. He said he could read anyone’s emails from
anyone, anywhere, in the world, and of course from every
American—no problem at all.
I tend to believe Neal though. All my less-than-flattering posts
about the USA that I’ve posted on this site, I doubt the US
Government spy agencies could care less about. They’d just write
me off an another left-winger socialist they tend to ignore. I
could probably fly the old East German flag in front of my house
and I doubt anyone would pay any attention. Or, I could put up a
photo of Angela Davis shaking hands with Erich Honecker and I
don’t think the US government would care one bit. They‘d just
ignore me. They don’t care if I hate the US. Neal’s right.
They’d probably be happy to be rid of me if I moved away. They’d
wave good-bye.
If I could pick up another citizenship, they’d probably even
waive the $2,350USD fee to denounce my US citizenship- They’d
just say „just sign here“ and „we will expedite the processing
and send you your citizenship denunciation certificate by over
night-mail“. :)
But, I‘ll have to check out that Netflix thing you mentioned,
The Grand Hack. If they have 5000 data points on every US
citizen, you’ve probably got an excess, Neal too, that’s if the
data points mean something good.
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Re: I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government S
ecurity Forces
By: SHL Date: August 6, 2019, 3:47 pm
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[quote author=Susan link=topic=1300.msg18978#msg18978
date=1565113030]
That sad face on NealC´s post was supposed to be the ¨funny.¨
SHL-- If you have Netflix, you might want to watch what I think
is called ¨The Grand Hack¨ in English. I have watched the first
part of it, where they talk about Cambridge Analytics and how
they helped with Brexit and with Trumps campaign. They claimed
to have 5, 000 data points on every U.S. citizen. As I
understand it, these datapoints would include things like
cookies of sites you have visited, things you have shared, etc.
With all the crap articles you post here, I would see no reason
to believe that many of your 5,000 or so datapoints would be
significantly different than the average U.S. citizen. Why
would you think it is here that they are specificially
monitoring. I would guess what they would use would be much
more automated, more like what Cambridge Analytics did. I
assume that it isn´t so much dominated by what you write on a
particular board-- that U.S. securi ty would look for patterns
of what you are looking at. For those of us who often don´t use
a VPN, I don´t doubt a lot of data is available to those
organizations with the know-how to exploit it-- and don´t doubt
there could be several, or many organizations trying to use
data. The U.S. government is just your particular choice of
who to be paranoid of. And you love to (or feel comlelled to)
share that paranoia here.
[/quote]
This is the trailer to your movie. Looks good.
HTML https://youtu.be/iX8GxLP1FHo
#Post#: 18985--------------------------------------------------
Re: I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government S
ecurity Forces
By: Susan Date: August 6, 2019, 6:15 pm
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Just re-read that post I wrote badly. I meant to say that your
5000 data point WOULD probably be significantly different from
the average U.S. citizen. Think I better try to go edit that.
I had also been on vacation for the past week and a half-- and
apparently, I do not understand the feature well about unread
posts-- almost all the threads I was getting ready to read now
do not show up as unread because I got interrupted.
Oh well....
#Post#: 18986--------------------------------------------------
Re: I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government S
ecurity Forces
By: SHL Date: August 6, 2019, 7:18 pm
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[quote author=Susan link=topic=1300.msg18985#msg18985
date=1565133314]
Just re-read that post I wrote badly. I meant to say that your
5000 data point WOULD probably be significantly different from
the average U.S. citizen. Think I better try to go edit that.
I had also been on vacation for the past week and a half-- and
apparently, I do not understand the feature well about unread
posts-- almost all the threads I was getting ready to read now
do not show up as unread because I got interrupted.
Oh well....
[/quote]
Ok Susan. I don’t know anything about data points, not having
seen the movie. So, what is good and what is not good is a
mystery to me.
I guess the SSSS screening is random. I heard that from my
psychiatrist today. He went through that coming back from Paris.
But it‘s only incoming flights to the US.
It just seems terribly inefficient to randomly give people extra
screening for no reason. It seems awfully wasteful in terms of
time and resources without at a minimum reasonable suspicion.
People coming from North Korea, Cuba, Somalia. Yeah, I sort of
get that. But screening returning Americans?
#Post#: 18987--------------------------------------------------
Re: I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government S
ecurity Forces
By: Susan Date: August 6, 2019, 9:20 pm
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SHL-- the majority of terroristic activity in our country is of
the sort committed by other Americans, as in the case of the two
mass shootings this past week. Not everyone calls that
terrorism, but I think it should be called that. The terrorists
aren´t just Middle Easterners and Somalians. Your age is more
advanced than the usual terrorist, but that shooting in Vegas by
an older, wealthy man, kind of reinforced that just profiling
does not necessarily prevent things. It sounds like they
search for weapons, drugs, or any kind of illegal or suspicious
activity.
Random screening at airports is kind of like random drug tests
at places of employment. Not completely effective but it is
hoped to motivate some people into not trying to get away with
something.
#Post#: 18989--------------------------------------------------
Re: I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government S
ecurity Forces
By: SHL Date: August 7, 2019, 10:08 am
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[quote author=Susan link=topic=1300.msg18987#msg18987
date=1565144457]
SHL-- the majority of terroristic activity in our country is of
the sort committed by other Americans, as in the case of the two
mass shootings this past week. Not everyone calls that
terrorism, but I think it should be called that. The terrorists
aren´t just Middle Easterners and Somalians. Your age is more
advanced than the usual terrorist, but that shooting in Vegas by
an older, wealthy man, kind of reinforced that just profiling
does not necessarily prevent things. It sounds like they
search for weapons, drugs, or any kind of illegal or suspicious
activity.
Random screening at airports is kind of like random drug tests
at places of employment. Not completely effective but it is
hoped to motivate some people into not trying to get away with
something.
[/quote]
Good answer Susan and I appreciate it. But, our local
shoot-em-up gun violence, WHICH IS INCREASING, is a home-grown
American phenomenon caused by gun-tottin 2nd Amendment nut cases
in Texas, so screening Americans on flights coming to the US
just doesn’t make any sense to me. What, are they getting their
weapons and explosive abroad? If so, they sure don’t need to.
It would be easier just to get them in the US. They are
everywhere in the US, to gun culture NUTTINESS, We have more
than one gun for every man, woman and child, including babies,
in the US, with plenty left over-all legal and Republicam
endorsed. So, we are protecting ourselves from OUTSIDE gun
supplies or ammunition? Makes no sense.
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