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I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government Secur
ity Forces
By: SHL Date: August 4, 2019, 11:07 am
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I know this sounds Orwellian, or bizarre or maybe crazy, but I
think this site is being monitored at some low level by secret
US agents, whose names the US will not reveal, to see what is
being said here about US politics and especially the current
administration.
I know most will think I‘m just being crazy anti-US Steven
again, but this is real sh*t that us going on right now with
increased intensity and no one knows about it because the inner
working of it are top secret.
The US has what is called Secondary Security Selection („SSSS“).
I had heard about it once, but didn‘t pay much attention to it.
Under this program, the US is the only country in the world to
do this, and it only applies to flight to the US (not from the
US going abroad). According to the US Transportation Security
Administration TSA, neither it nor the airlines will publish the
criteria that are used when boarding passes are issued to
identify passengers who will be given extra screening or be
denied boarding planes to the US altogether. This applies to
people with ALL passports, US passports included.
„Critics of the George W. Bush administration, including Sen.
Edward Kennedy, Rep. John Lewis, feminist Naomi Lewis, peace
activists Father John Dear and Sister Virgine Lawinger, Center
for Constitutional Rights, lawyers Barbara Olshansky and Nancy
Chang, and Green Party activists Nancy Oden and Doug Stuben have
been pulled aside for enhanced screening, leading activists to
believe that some selectees were being harassed for speaking out
against government policies.“
This is essentially a US government „Watch List“ and no one in
the government is permitted to name who is on the SSSS list or
why:
HTML https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secondary_Security_Screening_Selection
I just managed to get back to the US from Berlin yesterday by
way of an overnight in Iceland. I had no problem boarding the
flight from Berlin to Reykjavik. In Berlin I got the usual email
saying I could check-in online and print out the bordering pass
to Reykjavik only This is normal.
But, while in Iceland I received no such email pertaining to my
onward flight from Reykjavik to Seattle. I thought it odd, but I
didn‘t pay much attention to it.
I did a self check-in at the airport at Keflavik (which is
Reykjavik‘s international airport) and got the boarding pass but
didn‘t really look at it. Before I went through security, an
official looked at my passport briefly and asked to see my
boarding pass, so I said „sure.“ He glanced at the boarding pass
and started asking all these unusual questions: „where was I in
Europe?“ I just said „the whole month in Germany.“ He asked why
I was there and who did I talk to? Who did I visit, friends,
relatives? Did I go to other countries within the EU? What did
I do while in Germany? Did anyone pack my bags for me or ask me
to carry anything for them?“ Of course I just asked no, and he
smiled and said, „Oh all no‘s. That’s to the answer I guess. You
can go ahead.“
I thought the questioning was strange, because I had never
experienced this before in Iceland with a boarding pass to a US
bound flight. I went through security, no problems. But when we
were bordering, there are these several little gates you have to
scan your boarding pass bar code through to open the door. The
lights on almost everyone else’s doors went green and the door
opened. My boarding pass didn‘t work for some reason. It kept
denying me entry, and illuminating red. At first I thought the
gate was defective so I tried others. No others worked and kept
flashing red. So I asked a person working there what was wrong.
He took one look at my bordering card and said „the lady and
gentleman down this end of this hallway would like to speak with
you.“ So I walked down the hall and showed the lady and guy my
boarding card and said it was defective. And I showed my US
Passport. They smiled and looked at my boarding pass and said,
„No sir. The US government has asked that we especially screen
you before allowing you to board a plane to the US. Please
following this gentlemen into this small room.“ So I followed
this dude into this room. He told be to unpack everything, take
all the electronics out of their cases, take my shoes off, a
Soviet Style shake down. He ran this alcohol smelling tape over
my forehead, legs, and belt section, and stuck it into this
machine. The machine kept saying „ negative.“ He swabbed all the
insides of my luggage with something that looked like a test
strip, and ran it through this machine looking for explosives.
It too all came back saying „negative.“ He carefully examined my
shoes, inside and out, shaking them. He also ran an explosives
test strip over them and put it in the machine. And the machine
said „negative.“ Then he stamped something on my boarding pass
and said I could go. But I had to collect up everything up and
repack my carry on stuff.
I read this was part of what I had heard before as the US
government‘s Secondary Screening Securing process (SSSS). This
is for terrorist suspects, and for those who oppose the US
government, or who say they hate the US government. It’s for
anyone they think are „suspicious.“ Everyone with certain
passports have to go through this automatically, from places
like North Korea, Cuba, the Sudan, Iran- those kinds of places.
But everyone is subject to it potentially. Even US Passport
holders.
I thought I was flying to Moscow in 1973 or something. What a
horrible experience, all thanks to the US government.
We all know the US government monitors all internet use (Snowden
proved this), so I think this board gets a little (maybe not
much) US secret surveillance, probably low level, but I have
said some anti-US things in the past, which might explain why I
am on some secret US government „watch list“, whenever I try to
enter the US, since I have never posted anything online that was
anti-US except here, or even mentioned anything like that in
person to someone else.
I‘m surprised they didn‘t confiscate my Erick Honecker book. I
wish I had been wearing my DDR lapel pin or had packed a big
former East German flag in my carry on and said, „Now. That’s
what I believe in. Tell that to the US government.“
This is scary stuff and the US is a scary country with power all
over the world you could never imagine. They won‘t even tell you
what they are up to or the power they have. They can hack any
computer system they want in a matter of seconds, no matter what
security you try to put in. They can do whatever they like.
The US spies on and incarcerates more of it‘s own citizens than
any country in the world and for longer prison sentences than
any country in the world under inhumane conditions.
I‘d recommend those not needing to urgently, avoid to travel to
the US. It’s not a safe or free country.
I feel like going home and hanging my DDR (former East German)
flag out the window.
So, I am now on a secret US government „watch list“. They‘ll let
you leave, no problem, but coming back watch out. They could
have denied my entry into the US carrying a US passport! Imagine
that? Watch out if your boarding pass looks like this (note the
SSSS printed at the bottom):
[img width=300
height=300]
HTML https://i.ibb.co/BgD0zQG/AD34541-B-0502-42-C2-8-BC8-8-DC879-E12-A84.jpg[/img]
HTML https://ibb.co/p3DY0MQ
Even with a US passport they can deny you the right to return.
#Post#: 18875--------------------------------------------------
Re: I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government S
ecurity Forces
By: Aliph Date: August 4, 2019, 11:22 am
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Frsnkly SHL do you believe in what you have written? Do you
think that the 17 people who occasionally log in here and write
something are so important for the US security? Isn't that a bit
pretentious?
#Post#: 18876--------------------------------------------------
Re: I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government S
ecurity Forces
By: Aliph Date: August 4, 2019, 11:28 am
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However I believe that Italki participates in collecting
information about his 3 millions subscribers and hands them over
to those who develop their social credit system. I am happy not
having any plans to visit China and not having any family there.
#Post#: 18877--------------------------------------------------
Re: I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government S
ecurity Forces
By: Aliph Date: August 4, 2019, 12:06 pm
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What you describe about the questions they asked you are routine
questions in airports such as Ben Gurion in Tel Aviv or
elsewhere you can be randomly chosen for a closer check up.
Unfortunately I went through other so called security checks
with a bottle of water in my purse that nobody noticed.
#Post#: 18878--------------------------------------------------
Re: I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government S
ecurity Forces
By: SHL Date: August 4, 2019, 12:11 pm
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[quote author=Sofia link=topic=1300.msg18875#msg18875
date=1564935773]
Frsnkly SHL do you believe in what you have written? Do you
think that the 17 people who occasionally log in here and write
something are so important for the US security? Isn't that a bit
pretentious?
[/quote]
I think it‘s foolish to underestimate the US government. It’s a
monster of enormous power and can do anything it wants and get
away with it. Civil liberties are all but dead in the US.
#Post#: 18879--------------------------------------------------
Re: I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government S
ecurity Forces
By: Nikola Date: August 4, 2019, 2:27 pm
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I think we should all sleep on it.
#Post#: 18881--------------------------------------------------
Re: I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government S
ecurity Forces
By: NealC Date: August 4, 2019, 3:04 pm
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There are only three S words in the name of your government
protocol, yet there are four S letters on your boarding pass. I
think you were not investigated by the infamous Secondary
Security Selection, but by the Secret Secondary Security
Selection, which of course is far worse. I am going to publicly
disavow all knowledge of your existence.
To combat obvious US Government surveillance of this forum I
propose one of either of the below responses. We can use what I
will call "Response G", which is to type in capital letters:
"Hey (US) Government, if you are reading this, why don't you go
**** yourself?" . Which we all know, is a pretty serious
challenge and could bring the full force and power of Uncle Sam
down on the whole operation.
OR
You can read this link,
HTML https://travellingtheworld.boardingarea.com/2014/12/ssss-boarding-pass-mean/<br
/>and find out SSSS was not printed on your boarding pass by the
US government, or the TSA, but rather by your airline. That
would mean you are not interesting enough to be considered a
threat by the government, but are instead a more run of the mill
liberal wacko.
It looks like Iceland Air finds you a suspicious character. Who
would have thought that of little Iceland? Personally, I think
it is the lawyer thing.
#Post#: 18883--------------------------------------------------
Re: I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government S
ecurity Forces
By: NealC Date: August 4, 2019, 3:14 pm
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Oh and Steven, the US Government doesnt give a shit that you
hate them. You arent even armed!
#Post#: 18885--------------------------------------------------
Re: I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government S
ecurity Forces
By: Aliph Date: August 4, 2019, 4:42 pm
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[quote author=NealC link=topic=1300.msg18883#msg18883
date=1564949649]
Oh and Steven, the US Government doesnt give a **** that you
hate them. You arent even armed!
[/quote]
Wait Neal! Don’t suggest crazy things!
#Post#: 18891--------------------------------------------------
Re: I believe this EGP is being monitored by the US Government S
ecurity Forces
By: SHL Date: August 4, 2019, 6:53 pm
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[quote author=NealC link=topic=1300.msg18883#msg18883
date=1564949649]
Oh and Steven, the US Government doesnt give a **** that you
hate them. You arent even armed!
[/quote]
Well Neal, the Icelanders love me. I’m sure the US Government
was behind this. See, this is a US program for people traveling
to the US. No other country dreamed up this.
The US tells the airlines they have to do this, or they will get
fined for letting an SSSS person fly to the US without screening
them. So, where do the airlines get the names to screen? You
know it has to come from the US government, or the CIA or some
weird secret department. These foreign air carriers don’t know
anything about their passengers or care (as long as they get
paid). It would be a waste of time for the airlines to just
randomly pick people out of hundreds and thousands of
passengers. You know the CIA is behind this and is supplying the
names. It’s your own government doing this Neal.
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