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       Bulgaria: The World's Fastest-Shrinking Country (video)
       By: Irena Date: July 21, 2019, 10:32 am
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       I found the video quite interesting. It documents what used to
       be a large village and has now been reduced to a handful of
       mostly old people, surrounded by dilapidating buildings and
       barely making ends meet. They reminisce about the good old days
       when they could travel abroad, whereas now they can't even
       afford a local vacation. I have some Bulgarian ancestry (and
       some Bulgarian relatives; luckily, they don't live in places
       like this), so this is particularly interesting to me. It's also
       interesting to see how much of the language I can and cannot
       understand. Well, it's not so easy: they don't enunciate words
       very carefully. I suspect I'd understand almost everything if I
       had a transcript, though.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Ufhi_42h0
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       Re: Bulgaria: The World's Fastest-Shrinking Country (video)
       By: Pasha Date: July 21, 2019, 11:42 am
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       That village looks very similar to the typical villages in
       Ukraine.
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       Re: Bulgaria: The World's Fastest-Shrinking Country (video)
       By: SHL Date: July 21, 2019, 12:20 pm
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       [quote author=Irena link=topic=1256.msg18279#msg18279
       date=1563723172]
       I found the video quite interesting. It documents what used to
       be a large village and has now been reduced to a handful of
       mostly old people, surrounded by dilapidating buildings and
       barely making ends meet. They reminisce about the good old days
       when they could travel abroad, whereas now they can't even
       afford a local vacation. I have some Bulgarian ancestry (and
       some Bulgarian relatives; luckily, they don't live in places
       like this), so this is particularly interesting to me. It's also
       interesting to see how much of the language I can and cannot
       understand. Well, it's not so easy: they don't enunciate words
       very carefully. I suspect I'd understand almost everything if I
       had a transcript, though.
  HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9Ufhi_42h0
       [/quote]
       Well, even if things look a bit bleak in the video, Bulgaria is
       an EU Country so if the folks there can make their way to
       another country in the EU they can start a new life there with
       great opportunities.  All the have to do it get there. So,
       that’s the silver lining in the dark cloud. People in the US
       don’t have this kind of luck.
       So take a place like Ohio, sort of an American version of this
       place, and the best those people in Ohio can do is go to a
       better place like California. It‘s sad really.
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       Re: Bulgaria: The World's Fastest-Shrinking Country (video)
       By: Irena Date: July 21, 2019, 1:42 pm
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       Oh, Steve...  ::)
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       Re: Bulgaria: The World's Fastest-Shrinking Country (video)
       By: NealC Date: July 21, 2019, 1:54 pm
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       From what I have read Bulgaria has a real problem with
       corruption, and that is stifling outside business investment.
       When were these people doing well?  Did they have some local
       factory work?
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       Re: Bulgaria: The World's Fastest-Shrinking Country (video)
       By: Irena Date: July 21, 2019, 2:13 pm
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       [quote author=NealC link=topic=1256.msg18284#msg18284
       date=1563735291]
       From what I have read Bulgaria has a real problem with
       corruption, and that is stifling outside business investment.
       When were these people doing well?  Did they have some local
       factory work?
       [/quote]
       Yup. That's what they say in the video. No more.
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       Re: Bulgaria: The World's Fastest-Shrinking Country (video)
       By: NealC Date: July 21, 2019, 2:27 pm
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       From when?  Soviet era?  Or has integration into Europe caused
       the local economy to fail?
       Sorry if i am asking questions answered on the video, the
       handheld i have now has no sound.  Sound one is charging up.
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       Re: Bulgaria: The World's Fastest-Shrinking Country (video)
       By: Irena Date: July 21, 2019, 2:32 pm
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       [quote author=NealC link=topic=1256.msg18287#msg18287
       date=1563737255]
       From when?  Soviet era?  Or has integration into Europe caused
       the local economy to fail?
       Sorry if i am asking questions answered on the video, the
       handheld i have now has no sound.  Sound one is charging up.
       [/quote]
       Yeah, Soviet era factories. I'm not sure when exactly they
       closed down. If I had to guess, I'd say it happened in the
       1990s, before the integration into the EU.
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       Re: Bulgaria: The World's Fastest-Shrinking Country (video)
       By: NealC Date: July 21, 2019, 4:15 pm
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       Steven these people are too poor or too old to move.  It is
       difficult for these small countries to compete on the world
       stage.  The Balkans are so fragmented, having separate countries
       might keep the peace but it is hard for such small countries to
       prosper.
       I think Greece has a chance if they go back to the drachma and
       become the low cost tourist destination for Europe.  I dont know
       what you do in Bulgaria.
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       Re: Bulgaria: The World's Fastest-Shrinking Country (video)
       By: SHL Date: July 21, 2019, 4:25 pm
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       [quote author=NealC link=topic=1256.msg18294#msg18294
       date=1563743707]
       Steven these people are too poor or too old to move.  It is
       difficult for these small countries to compete on the world
       stage.  The Balkans are so fragmented, having separate countries
       might keep the peace but it is hard for such small countries to
       prosper.
       I think Greece has a chance if they do back to the drachma and
       become the low cost tourist destination for Europe.  I dont know
       what you do in Bulgaria.
       [/quote]
       Actually Neal, Bulgaria has a very popular tourist destination
       at a resort area on the Black Sea I think. So, there’s some
       potential. I don’t know what a bus ticket would cost to go to
       another EU country but it can't be much. Even if age is an
       issue, the younger people have a chance.
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