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       #Post#: 18122--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ban the T**** word ! A demand to our beloved administrators
       By: Nikola Date: July 17, 2019, 9:19 am
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       [quote author=Alharacas link=topic=1241.msg18120#msg18120
       date=1563371469]
       Steven, I'm a bit confused - you're staying with friends, but
       they won't let you do your washing in their machine? Even taking
       into account that standards of hospitality are a LOT lower in
       Germany than almost anywhere else in the world, that seems a bit
       weird.
       [/quote]
       I was wondering about that. Can't you use their washing machine?
       #Post#: 18124--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ban the T**** word ! A demand to our beloved administrators
       By: SHL Date: July 17, 2019, 9:55 am
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       [quote author=The Artist formerly known as Truman Overby
       link=topic=1241.msg18121#msg18121 date=1563371820]
       [quote author=Alharacas link=topic=1241.msg18120#msg18120
       date=1563371469]
       Yesterday, I had to wait a few minutes in my local dry
       cleaner's, and out of sheer boredom happened to check their
       price list: they charge €4.95/kg - ironing included!
       [/quote]
       That's about 6 USD, I believe. My washing machine crapped out a
       year ago and I was forced to make a 40 minute round trip to do
       our laundry. One large load was something like $3.25 to wash.
       Drying was approx 3 bucks. And that's not counting gas to get
       there and back. You guys have it good with those low prices. You
       weren't complaining about the 4.95 euros, were you?
       [/quote]
       No, the exchange rate is around 1.12 or a bit more to the Euro,
       you know it fluctuates all the time, so it was about $3.50 that
       I lost.  Not a big deal, but the principle. I was holding onto
       those three coins thinking “This is all I need!” Then the
       machine flakes out on me!
       What a bummer. A really nice lady was next to me and tried to
       help, but she couldn’t get the machine to work either, and told
       me it had worked for the guy ahead of me.  Bad luck is all.
       #Post#: 18125--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ban the T**** word ! A demand to our beloved administrators
       By: SHL Date: July 17, 2019, 10:00 am
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       [quote author=Alharacas link=topic=1241.msg18120#msg18120
       date=1563371469]
       Steven, I'm a bit confused - you're staying with friends, but
       they won't let you do your washing in their machine? Even taking
       into account that standards of hospitality are a LOT lower in
       Germany than almost anywhere else in the world, that seems a bit
       weird.
       But anyway, considering the 60 km round-trip, and the broken
       dryer, and all those coffees in order to get change, I'd say
       you'd be better off if you just went to the nearest "Wäscherei &
       Reinigung". :)
       Yesterday, I had to wait a few minutes in my local dry
       cleaner's, and out of sheer boredom happened to check their
       price list: they charge €4.95/kg - ironing included!
       [/quote]
       No, I stay with two different families. Tomorrow I’m headed back
       down South to a family I rented a room from in 1980,  (they are
       in the Braunschweig area and I stayed with the them on the way
       up)  and the next day I’ll head back to Thüringen (Neunhofen) to
       Uli and Hans.
       I always travel up to Jever for a few days, just by myself,
       where I am now. It’s not expensive and I like the area. But, to
       do a little laundry I have to go up to Esens, a cute little town
       further north where they have that SB-Waschsalon. (Berlin has
       those places everywhere and they are a lot more modern than this
       one.)
       But coming up a few days ago was horrid. I ran into this Stau on
       the A27, heading toward Bremen (you can’t get near Bremen
       without taking all kinds of detours around the traffic.) It said
       “STAU GEFAHR” and I thought, “ah, just a little warning of what
       may be a little slowdown”. Woah. They weren’t kidding. Two lanes
       becoming one and the traffic just stops. Dead still. Moves ever
       3 minutes 3 feet. Some people just get out of their cars and
       wander around. Oh my God. So I thought, “ I’m taking the first
       damn exit I can get to and I don’t care where it takes me.”  So
       I took this exit at someplace called Verden(Aller) and headed to
       Rotenburg (Wümme), then I had to drive seemingly forever to
       someplace called Bremervörder, then cut over to Loxstedt, right
       below Bremerhafen, then cross this bridge over die Weser (well
       they have a tunnel). It was unbelievable. I think I drove half
       way to Hamburg. Gosh, that detour cost me an hour and half at
       least. I don’t know what people did before GPS (used maps I
       guess).
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       #Post#: 18126--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ban the T**** word ! A demand to our beloved administrators
       By: Truman Overby Date: July 17, 2019, 10:03 am
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       [quote author=SHL link=topic=1241.msg18124#msg18124
       date=1563375307]
       [quote author=The Artist formerly known as Truman Overby
       link=topic=1241.msg18121#msg18121 date=1563371820]
       [quote author=Alharacas link=topic=1241.msg18120#msg18120
       date=1563371469]
       Yesterday, I had to wait a few minutes in my local dry
       cleaner's, and out of sheer boredom happened to check their
       price list: they charge €4.95/kg - ironing included!
       [/quote]
       That's about 6 USD, I believe. My washing machine crapped out a
       year ago and I was forced to make a 40 minute round trip to do
       our laundry. One large load was something like $3.25 to wash.
       Drying was approx 3 bucks. And that's not counting gas to get
       there and back. You guys have it good with those low prices. You
       weren't complaining about the 4.95 euros, were you?
       [/quote]
       No, the exchange rate is around 1.12 or a bit more to the Euro,
       you know it fluctuates all the time, so it was about $3.50 that
       I lost.  Not a big deal, but the principle. I was holding onto
       those three coins thinking “This is all I need!” Then the
       machine flakes out on me!
       What a bummer. A really nice lady was next to me and tried to
       help, but she couldn’t get the machine to work either, and told
       me it had worked for the guy ahead of me.  Bad luck is all.
       [/quote]
       The converter I used says that 4.95 euro is $5.55 US. At any
       rate, you can't get your laundry done along with ironing for
       $5.55 where I live. This was in response to Alharacas.
       #Post#: 18127--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ban the T**** word ! A demand to our beloved administrators
       By: SHL Date: July 17, 2019, 10:37 am
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       [quote author=The Artist formerly known as Truman Overby
       link=topic=1241.msg18126#msg18126 date=1563375823]
       [quote author=SHL link=topic=1241.msg18124#msg18124
       date=1563375307]
       [quote author=The Artist formerly known as Truman Overby
       link=topic=1241.msg18121#msg18121 date=1563371820]
       [quote author=Alharacas link=topic=1241.msg18120#msg18120
       date=1563371469]
       Yesterday, I had to wait a few minutes in my local dry
       cleaner's, and out of sheer boredom happened to check their
       price list: they charge €4.95/kg - ironing included!
       [/quote]
       That's about 6 USD, I believe. My washing machine crapped out a
       year ago and I was forced to make a 40 minute round trip to do
       our laundry. One large load was something like $3.25 to wash.
       Drying was approx 3 bucks. And that's not counting gas to get
       there and back. You guys have it good with those low prices. You
       weren't complaining about the 4.95 euros, were you?
       [/quote]
       No, the exchange rate is around 1.12 or a bit more to the Euro,
       you know it fluctuates all the time, so it was about $3.50 that
       I lost.  Not a big deal, but the principle. I was holding onto
       those three coins thinking “This is all I need!” Then the
       machine flakes out on me!
       What a bummer. A really nice lady was next to me and tried to
       help, but she couldn’t get the machine to work either, and told
       me it had worked for the guy ahead of me.  Bad luck is all.
       [/quote]
       The converter I used says that 4.95 euro is $5.55 US. At any
       rate, you can't get your laundry done along with ironing for
       $5.55 where I live. This was in response to Alharacas.
       [/quote]
       That converter is about right. But, there’s a commission added
       by some places and a different buy/sell price. I think the
       converters you get off the internet are what banks buy and sell
       them for? Never exchange currency at an airport. It’s a total
       rip-off. Always exchange before you leave at your local bank. I
       think the rate was 1.14 when I got mine.  Plus, I had 850€ left
       over from last year which I didn’t use. So, I just took a bit
       extra, but bought them early, because the price goes up the
       closer you get to Summer.
       #Post#: 18128--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ban the T**** word ! A demand to our beloved administrators
       By: SHL Date: July 17, 2019, 10:54 am
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       [quote author=Nikola link=topic=1241.msg18122#msg18122
       date=1563373151]
       [quote author=Alharacas link=topic=1241.msg18120#msg18120
       date=1563371469]
       Steven, I'm a bit confused - you're staying with friends, but
       they won't let you do your washing in their machine? Even taking
       into account that standards of hospitality are a LOT lower in
       Germany than almost anywhere else in the world, that seems a bit
       weird.
       [/quote]
       I was wondering about that. Can't you use their washing machine?
       [/quote]
       My friend Uli always does my laundry for me, and irons it. She
       doesn’t have a dryer but it doesn’t matter. I normally plan a
       week with her, max then a week elsewhere, then another week at
       her place. It works out better that way.
       Here’s a pic from Esens, and this guy is a big tea dealer/seller
       I guess. He had this shop with all these little tea cups and
       saucers and little tea things in it. I don’t drink tea, so I’m
       not too interesting it what his business is. Alharacas will have
       to help with the translation of the shop. I guess you could just
       say he’s an East Frisian tea dealer? It’s an odd title.
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       #Post#: 18129--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ban the T**** word ! A demand to our beloved administrators
       By: SHL Date: July 17, 2019, 11:04 am
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       And a few more pics of Esens:
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       height=225]
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       height=225]
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       #Post#: 18131--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ban the T**** word ! A demand to our beloved administrators
       By: Alharacas Date: July 17, 2019, 11:26 am
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       What a pity you don't drink tea, Steven. I was going to ask you
       to describe one of those East Frisian tea ceremonies to me - it
       seems serving tea is kind of a ritual there, if not quite on the
       level of Japanese tea ceremonies. ;) I know they have those cute
       little special silver spoons for the liquid cream, and they
       usually put Kandiszucker (rock sugar?) in their tea.
       I knew a Kontor was some kind of trader's office, but wikipedia
       says it used to be "a foreign trading post of the Hanseatic
       League".
       No, Jerry, I wasn't complaining about the price. Actually, I was
       idly wondering whether I'd be able to justify getting rid of
       some of my mountains of washing by taking them there. Sadly, I
       probably wouldn't. :)
       #Post#: 18133--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ban the T**** word ! A demand to our beloved administrators
       By: SHL Date: July 17, 2019, 1:59 pm
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       [quote author=Alharacas link=topic=1241.msg18131#msg18131
       date=1563380770]
       What a pity you don't drink tea, Steven. I was going to ask you
       to describe one of those East Frisian tea ceremonies to me - it
       seems serving tea is kind of a ritual there, if not quite on the
       level of Japanese tea ceremonies. ;) I know they have those cute
       little special silver spoons for the liquid cream, and they
       usually put Kandiszucker (rock sugar?) in their tea.
       I knew a Kontor was some kind of trader's office, but wikipedia
       says it used to be "a foreign trading post of the Hanseatic
       League".
       No, Jerry, I wasn't complaining about the price. Actually, I was
       idly wondering whether I'd be able to justify getting rid of
       some of my mountains of washing by taking them there. Sadly, I
       probably wouldn't. :)
       [/quote]
       Yes, I never became a tea drinker. I think it goes back to
       childhood. My friend Uli in Thüringen said the exact same thing
       why she wasn’t a tea drinker, and I realized that was my
       experience too. She said she hated tea because it reminded her
       of being sick, as a child, and her mother bringing her tea to
       drink in bed. I experienced the same thing. We are about the
       same age, she’s 59 and I’m 61, so we didn’t have all the same
       vaccinations when we grew up that they have now for kids. For
       example, I had the mumps at age 11 (now a routine vaccination)
       and was in bed for a week with it out of school.  It actually
       didn’t bother me much - I just saw it as a nice excuse to stay
       in bed and miss school. And, I recovered from it just fine
       (although I did read that it can have really serious
       consequences in some cases). I never forget my grandfather
       visiting me at the time when I was in bed. He was the local
       pharmacist in town, and told my mom, “It’s good that he got it
       now, rather than later.” I never knew why he said that until
       later. But, after adolescence, it can render a guy infertile for
       life if he gets in his later teens.
       So, like Uli, drinking tea reminds me of being sick in bed and
       my mom bringing me tea to drink. The negative association is one
       I could never get over. That’s why I just cannot drink tea in
       any form, hot, cold, whatever. Funny how these earlier
       associations stick with you.
       I’ve seen Kandiszucker everywhere up here. I probably have seen
       it elsewhere in the country but haven’t paid much attention, but
       in Ostfriesland it is everywhere.
       But, the sad part is, it bears a striking resemblance to a
       pretty nasty illegal drug:
       [img width=300
       height=225]
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       I mean, just compare the two. One is just sugar, the
       other......well a killer.
       But, you can special order Kandiszucker in the States
       (Wisconsin) and this place calls it “super hard” to find:
  HTML https://www.bavariasausage.com/proddetail.php?prod=Sudzucker-Weisser-Kandis-White-Rock-Sugar&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIpoW3jtK84wIVE9RkCh0VQg9kEAQYAiABEgJWKfD_BwE
       The word Kontor was one I’ve seen a lot in Ostfriesland, but
       never could really get a feel for. Even my friends in Thüringen
       never really had a good explanation for it. And all Duden gives
       is this:
       Duden - Deutsches Universalwörterbuch
       Kon|tor, das; -s, -e [aus dem Niederd. < mniederl. contoor <
       frz. comptoir, eigtl. = Zahltisch, zu: compter < lat. computare,
       &#8593; Konto]:
       1. Niederlassung eines Handelsunternehmens od. einer Reederei im
       Ausland.
       2. (DDR) Handelszentrale, die als Mittler zwischen der Industrie
       u. dem Einzelhandel u. zur Versorgung der Betriebe dient.
       3. (veraltend) Büro eines Kaufmanns, einer Firma.
       #Post#: 18256--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Ban the T**** word ! A demand to our beloved administrators
       By: Pasha Date: July 20, 2019, 1:09 pm
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       I am generally against any sort of censorship and fear of the
       name only increases fear of the thing itself.  I wonder why
       cocainum is banned word. Heroin, meth, crack, fentanyl, coke are
       okay.
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