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Nikola? Is this Czech or Slovak?
By: Irena Date: June 9, 2019, 3:43 pm
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Nikola, do you think you could watch a tiny bit of this video,
and tell me what language (Czech or Slovak) Lydia is speaking
in? It sounds Czech-like, but some of her endings are different
from what I learned... ???
HTML https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGKRPSJ8oa0
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Re: Nikola? Is this Czech or Slovak?
By: Nikola Date: June 9, 2019, 4:07 pm
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She is speaking Slovak. They talk about it in the video. He says
that she can speak eight languages plus Slovak and she adds "and
Czech" but then says "pasivně".
You're right, the word endings are different. Some words are
completely different:
volám sa = jmenuji se
robím = dělám
ako = jak
počúvať = poslouchat
veľa = hodně, moc
rozprávala som sa s = povídala/vyprávěla jsem si s
skoro = brzy (it can also mean the same as skoro in Czech)
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Re: Nikola? Is this Czech or Slovak?
By: Irena Date: June 9, 2019, 4:12 pm
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Sigh. I figured. (Thanks.)
This is depressing. I've been learning Czech for ten-minus-two
months (I mean, I started ten months ago, but I had to take a
two month break in the middle), and I understand Slovak (which
I've never studied) better than Czech. :'( She said at some
point in the video that she "lost" her active Czech when she
learned Polish, but I figured maybe she managed to regain it.
Thanks again, though. I appreciate it. :)
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Re: Nikola? Is this Czech or Slovak?
By: MartinSR Date: June 9, 2019, 4:46 pm
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It's a very nice example. I guessed it right too, since I have
friends in both countries and we try not to use English while
writing between us. It's a lot of fun.
I should say that I have sometimes real problems with guessing
which one of two I hear. When I have a larger sample I usually
bet the one which is easier to understand is Slovak.
I wander if you know the movie about the adventures of Czech
astronauts in outer space. I have seen the funny episodes when
they meet Polish astronauts and another one when they meet
(empty!) Slovak space station and try to make a contact. It's
very funny. I saw them on YouTube long time ago. Maybe Nikola
will remember its name.
Btw. I saw (in a box above this forum) a few last sentences from
the chat you have. I will answer in Polish:
Nikolo i Ireno. Widziałem tylko dwa ostatnie zdania z
rozmowy. Nie mogę więc powiedzieć ile
zrozumiałbym po czesku. Ale w tych dwóch zdaniach było
tylko jedno słowo (nie pamiętam jakie), którego
znaczenia musiałem się domyślać z kontekstu.
Zazwyczaj używamy podobnych słów, albo są to
słowa używane w dawnych czasach - jednak ciągle
zrozumiałe.
Często bywa, że prawie identyczne słowo znaczy
coś zupełnie innego.
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Re: Nikola? Is this Czech or Slovak?
By: Nikola Date: June 9, 2019, 4:48 pm
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[img width=300
height=214]
HTML https://i.stack.imgur.com/HwyPg.jpg[/img]
This picture shows the lexical distance among different
languages. It's the degree of overall vocabulary divergence.
Slovak is a lot closer to Serbian than Czech in that respect. So
you must have had some understanding of Slovak in the first
place and it probably improved when you became familiar with
Czech grammar. Just take it as buy one, get one free :) It
doesn't say anything about how good your Czech is.
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Re: Nikola? Is this Czech or Slovak?
By: Irena Date: June 9, 2019, 5:10 pm
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[quote author=Nikola link=topic=1145.msg16707#msg16707
date=1560116891]
Just take it as buy one, get one free :) It doesn't say anything
about how good your Czech is.
[/quote]
You're too kind, Nikola. ;)
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Re: Nikola? Is this Czech or Slovak?
By: Irena Date: June 9, 2019, 5:12 pm
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[quote author=MartinSR link=topic=1145.msg16706#msg16706
date=1560116789]
Widziałem tylko dwa ostatnie zdania z rozmowy. Nie
mogę więc powiedzieć ile zrozumiałbym po
czesku. Ale w tych dwóch zdaniach było tylko jedno
słowo (nie pamiętam jakie), którego znaczenia
musiałem się domyślać z kontekstu. Zazwyczaj
używamy podobnych słów, albo są to słowa
używane w dawnych czasach - jednak ciągle
zrozumiałe.
Często bywa, że prawie identyczne słowo znaczy
coś zupełnie innego.
[/quote]
I understood the stuff in bold. The other sentences, well,
so-so. ;)
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Re: Nikola? Is this Czech or Slovak?
By: MartinSR Date: June 9, 2019, 5:20 pm
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[quote author=Irena ]
I understood the stuff in bold. The other sentences, well,
so-so. ;)
[/quote]
Great. Knowing Serbian, Russian and Czech (one from each of the
Slavic sub-groups) you are on the straight way to understand all
Slavic languages.
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Re: Nikola? Is this Czech or Slovak?
By: MartinSR Date: June 9, 2019, 5:31 pm
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In my opinion the diagram shows the lexical proximity is not
everything. According to it I should understand Czech better
than Slovak. Of course learning Russian (And some basic Croatian
vocabulary) makes me (and Irena too) untrustworthy subjects to
this type of evaluation.
I have real trouble with understanding Slovenian (Slovene?),
when comparing to others. I don't understand the proximity of
Lithuanian which is not more understandable than Chinese to me -
the idea of the Balto-Slavic group seems to be some kind of
propaganda to me. And I find much more words of Romance origin
than Germanic in Polish vocabulary - of course I count many
words as Latin not English when they exist in both (Paul from
Langfocus said once that English vocabulary comes in 1/3 from
Latin, 1/3 from French(old) and only 1/3 from English... And it
appeals to me).
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Re: Nikola? Is this Czech or Slovak?
By: MartinSR Date: June 9, 2019, 5:38 pm
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And I found the episode of the movie I was referring to.
HTML https://youtu.be/auMaiTJYEAA
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