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Does Ryanair really have intraeuropean fares of 10 USD?
By: SHL Date: June 9, 2019, 3:23 pm
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I was watching Ryanair‘s CEO interviewed last night on a YouTube
clip ( but it was only a week old interview) and he said they
had the best fares within Europe going this Summer. He even
mentioned a 10$ fare? How could that be? He wouldn’t name the
competitors, but I know Easyjet is the big one, and there are
others, whose names escape me at the moment (I heard Easyjet is
lousy- late, and loses baggage).
So, I guess there’s no excuse not to get some traveling in this
Summer. Also, I heard some distressing news. Germany was
expecting temperatures around 30-33C this July. Wow. That IS
hot. I think I‘m going to spend more time on the North Coast in
Ostfriesland, where it usually is a bit cooler.
Time for European homes and apartments to get air conditioning
in their homes and apartments I guess.
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Re: Does Ryanair really have intraeuropean fares of 10 USD?
By: Nikola Date: June 9, 2019, 4:34 pm
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I just checked and it looks like I could fly from Prague to
Billund, Denmark for just under 10$. It's hand luggage only,
also very small size compared to normal hand luggage but yes,
it's possible. I don't know if it's still the case but I
remember Ryanair being the most punctual airline and mentioning
it during each flight. It's far from a luxurious experience,
obviously, but it's not terrible.
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Re: Does Ryanair really have intraeuropean fares of 10 USD?
By: Nikola Date: June 9, 2019, 4:57 pm
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Mind you, I do have very low standards and very short legs :)
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Re: Does Ryanair really have intraeuropean fares of 10 USD?
By: MartinSR Date: June 9, 2019, 5:06 pm
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These fares can be real obviously. But only when you start
planning your journey from getting the plane tickets (and the
date of flight is not important to you). When you need the
flight on the specific week - it's usually about 100€. Of course
there are additional costs like the registered luggage (20€),
priority lane (often connected with possibility of taking cabin
bag without additional costs). Sometimes you have to think about
the airport transfer costs, because the low-fare lines often use
more distant airports.
I often use Ryanair during my vacations. But I took advantage of
the 10€ fare only once. It was a few years ago. I took the
WizzAir (Hungarian low-fare airline) from my local airport to
Luton (It's 1h by bus from London) at 6 a.m. with return on the
same day (landing at 11:50 p.m.). I ordered it in advance. The
date was 3rd of December, so not very attractive one. It costed
about 2x10€ per person + 10£ for the bus transfer to London (we
were in the city 9.00a.m.-5p.m., and didn't have to pay for the
bus back to Luton, because we were returning the same day) + 8£
for the public transport daily ticket. Very cheap but tiring
solution.
And of course, the temperature in Poland (which has similar
weather to Germany) already happens to be over 30°C these days.
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Re: Does Ryanair really have intraeuropean fares of 10 USD?
By: SHL Date: June 9, 2019, 10:45 pm
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[quote author=MartinSR link=topic=1144.msg16709#msg16709
date=1560118006]
These fares can be real obviously. But only when you start
planning your journey from getting the plane tickets (and the
date of flight is not important to you). When you need the
flight on the specific week - it's usually about 100€. Of course
there are additional costs like the registered luggage (20€),
priority lane (often connected with possibility of taking cabin
bag without additional costs). Sometimes you have to think about
the airport transfer costs, because the low-fare lines often use
more distant airports.
I often use Ryanair during my vacations. But I took advantage of
the 10€ fare only once. It was a few years ago. I took the
WizzAir (Hungarian low-fare airline) from my local airport to
Luton (It's 1h by bus from London) at 6 a.m. with return on the
same day (landing at 11:50 p.m.). I ordered it in advance. The
date was 3rd of December, so not very attractive one. It costed
about 2x10€ per person + 10£ for the bus transfer to London (we
were in the city 9.00a.m.-5p.m., and didn't have to pay for the
bus back to Luton, because we were returning the same day) + 8£
for the public transport daily ticket. Very cheap but tiring
solution.
And of course, the temperature in Poland (which has similar
weather to Germany) already happens to be over 30°C these days.
[/quote]
Thanks for the answers, Nikola and MartinSR.
That 10USD fare is pretty incredible. Nikola, you couldn’t even
pay for the gas to drive from Prag to Denmark for 10USD, or even
take a bus for that price. That is truly amazing they can offer
that. But, like Martin said, this is a giveaway price I suppose
to get you in to buy everything else, and charge for everything
else, at a time when they’d have empty seats. They can‘t
possibly be making any money on a fare like that. And it would
be carry on only baggage too.
They did ask this CEO about seat size and he said there was a
lot of legroom and he said something about the pitch being
increased because the seats were slightly slimmer (not sure what
pitch is exactly). They were joking and asking if people would
have to pay to use the toilet on the plane. That’s the next
trick. Put a couple 1€ coins in a slot to open the door to the
lavatory. The CEO laughed and said they weren’t going that far.
You couldn’t even park at the airport for 10USD, let alone go
anywhere. You surely couldn’t park in a garage in Berlin for
that much. It would be like double or triple that amount for a
the day at least.
MartinSR. 30C is getting high, and you guys aren’t set up for
that with air conditioning, except in public places. So, that
must be hard to get used to. Where I am, we are expecting
temperatures at 40C tomorrow. Horrible. Even San Francisco is
supposed to be 30C tomorrow.
But, fortunately at home I can set the temperature at a nice
level, like 22 or something.
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Re: Does Ryanair really have intraeuropean fares of 10 USD?
By: SuKi Date: June 10, 2019, 2:39 am
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I heard Easyjet is lousy- late, and loses baggage.
Not true.
In fact, Easyjet are fine. Flights can be late for any number
of reasons, and it's rarely the fault of the airline. And as
Easyjet don't have their own baggage handlers, baggage loss
isn't likely likely to be their fault, either. I've travelled
with Easyjet plenty of times, and never had any complaints at
all. (Apart from the orange branding, perhaps).
By contrast, Ryanair are my airline of last resort. Mean,
nasty, money-grubbing and treat their staff like s***.
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Re: Does Ryanair really have intraeuropean fares of 10 USD?
By: Alharacas Date: June 10, 2019, 2:47 am
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[quote author=Nikola link=topic=1144.msg16705#msg16705
date=1560116098]
I just checked and it looks like I could fly from Prague to
Billund, Denmark for just under 10$. It's hand luggage only,
also very small size compared to normal hand luggage but yes,
it's possible. I don't know if it's still the case but I
remember Ryanair being the most punctual airline and mentioning
it during each flight. It's far from a luxurious experience,
obviously, but it's not terrible.
[/quote]
You know how they manage to be so punctual? By allowing 30 to 60
minutes more than the flight will actually take, right from the
start. Really. ;D
Whether flying with Ryanair is a horrible experience probably
depends on your definition of "horrible". A friend of mine who
is a pilot himself and mostly flies from Valencia Airport once
took me there when I was flying to Germany with Ryanair. As he
accompanied me to the gate, a trek which felt like miles, his
eyes kept growing bigger and bigger, until he exclaimed "Jo! I
hadn't even known this gate existed!" And after all of the
passengers had passed the gate, they shut the door behind us and
kept us in an airless staircase squashed together for over half
an hour in the glaring Spanish summer heat, before we were
finally rushed - on foot! - across the melting tarmac to our
plane.
Steven, I can't really see airconditioning becoming all that
popular in private homes in Germany, increasing temperatures
notwithstanding. Germans are pretty thrifty people, so spending
money on electricity, just because of a little sunshine, is not
something many people would be prepared to do. Plus, don't
forget German houses are usually quite heavily insulated, and
what keeps in the warmth from the heating in winter is also
pretty useful for keeping out the summer heat.
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Re: Does Ryanair really have intraeuropean fares of 10 USD?
By: Nikola Date: June 10, 2019, 4:14 am
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[quote author=Alharacas link=topic=1144.msg16718#msg16718
date=1560152857]
You know how they manage to be so punctual? By allowing 30 to 60
minutes more than the flight will actually take, right from the
start. Really. ;D
Whether flying with Ryanair is a horrible experience probably
depends on your definition of "horrible". A friend of mine who
is a pilot himself and mostly flies from Valencia Airport once
took me there when I was flying to Germany with Ryanair. As he
accompanied me to the gate, a trek which felt like miles, his
eyes kept growing bigger and bigger, until he exclaimed "Jo! I
hadn't even known this gate existed!" And after all of the
passengers had passed the gate, they shut the door behind us and
kept us in an airless staircase squashed together for over half
an hour in the glaring Spanish summer heat, before we were
finally rushed - on foot! - across the melting tarmac to our
plane.
[/quote]
I checked some random connections and didn't see any significant
difference in the duration of the flight between Ryanair and
others airlines. In most cases, the times were the same. Like
here, Dublin to Prague:
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I found a five-minute difference (Vienna to Dublin):
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height=270]
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If they do allow extra time, then other airlines do too. They
don't seem to have any real "advantage".
Yeah, flights like that suck but sadly, it's a pretty standard
low-cost experience. Especially the "are we even still at the
same airport?" moment when you've walked past all the
conveniently placed gates and your one is still nowhere in
sight. EasyJet is no different. The poor logistics you describe,
well, you don't get that a lot but it has happened to me before,
only it wasn't as hot on the stairs.
My problem with EasyJet (and I used to fly with them every now
and then) is that since they raised their prices, I just can't
see what's so special about their services that I should choose
them over much cheaper airlines or British Airways (even their
fares tend to be lower).
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Re: Does Ryanair really have intraeuropean fares of 10 USD?
By: SHL Date: June 11, 2019, 1:02 am
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[quote author=SuKi link=topic=1144.msg16717#msg16717
date=1560152350]
I heard Easyjet is lousy- late, and loses baggage.
Not true.
In fact, Easyjet are fine. Flights can be late for any number
of reasons, and it's rarely the fault of the airline. And as
Easyjet don't have their own baggage handlers, baggage loss
isn't likely likely to be their fault, either. I've travelled
with Easyjet plenty of times, and never had any complaints at
all. (Apart from the orange branding, perhaps).
By contrast, Ryanair are my airline of last resort. Mean,
nasty, money-grubbing and treat their staff like s***.
[/quote]
SuKi,
I suppose Easyjet is okay. I was probably thinking more about
Ryanair.
What’s that great old British TV series that’s all about Easyjet
and their check-in counter? I caught a few of their old episodes
on YouTube, and loved it. It was really popular in Britain about
20 years ago and the show ran for something like 10 years?
Unfortunately we never got it in the States (our TV programming
is really dreadful, and has been so for a couple decades at
least. I never even watch US TV it is so bad, and so boring. I
don’t even know why I even have a TV since I never turn it on.
But, to have wifi in the house it has to be bundled with some
dumb 100 TV channel thing, otherwise the savings on internet
alone is a paltry $5, so I figured what’s the point? (When I was
in the hospital with my heart issues a month ago, I forgot my
iPad, and the battery ran down on my iPhone, and none of the
nurses had a recharger, quite naturally, so I was stuck watching
this awful TV. Out of 100 channels I only found 2 which were
even vaguely interesting: one about insane people taking and
making methamphetamine (completely insane) and then one about
grizzly bears in Alaska. And goofy people hunting these poor
deer in the middle of the night, which they weren’t allowed to
do. The programming was so bad, it made the discussion board on
italki seem like high entertainment.)
But, anyway, the British show about Easyjet is the best. It was
amazing how they could take a rather mundane job, like being a
ticket check in person at an airport, and making an entertaining
story over it. Watching all these crazy people who think they
own the airline, just because they paid 50 pounds for a ticket
to go to Aberdeen from Luton or someplace, going crazy because
they showed up late for the flight, like 10 minutes before
departure, and the check closed, the doors on the plane were
shut, and they wouldn’t re-open them to let these goofy people
on. And all the people are like, “I’ve got plenty of time to get
to the gate!” Or they wanted to blame the motorway for delaying
them because there was a traffic jam. Like it’s the airlines
fault but not theirs? They had a woman from Paris on there once
screening something in French at the ticket lady and she kept
saying, “I don’t understand you” and the woman just kept on with
the French, tossing in a bit of English here and there. Great
show. ;)
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Re: Does Ryanair really have intraeuropean fares of 10 USD?
By: SHL Date: June 11, 2019, 1:16 am
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[quote author=Alharacas link=topic=1144.msg16718#msg16718
date=1560152857]
[quote author=Nikola link=topic=1144.msg16705#msg16705
date=1560116098]
I just checked and it looks like I could fly from Prague to
Billund, Denmark for just under 10$. It's hand luggage only,
also very small size compared to normal hand luggage but yes,
it's possible. I don't know if it's still the case but I
remember Ryanair being the most punctual airline and mentioning
it during each flight. It's far from a luxurious experience,
obviously, but it's not terrible.
[/quote]
You know how they manage to be so punctual? By allowing 30 to 60
minutes more than the flight will actually take, right from the
start. Really. ;D
Whether flying with Ryanair is a horrible experience probably
depends on your definition of "horrible". A friend of mine who
is a pilot himself and mostly flies from Valencia Airport once
took me there when I was flying to Germany with Ryanair. As he
accompanied me to the gate, a trek which felt like miles, his
eyes kept growing bigger and bigger, until he exclaimed "Jo! I
hadn't even known this gate existed!" And after all of the
passengers had passed the gate, they shut the door behind us and
kept us in an airless staircase squashed together for over half
an hour in the glaring Spanish summer heat, before we were
finally rushed - on foot! - across the melting tarmac to our
plane.
Steven, I can't really see airconditioning becoming all that
popular in private homes in Germany, increasing temperatures
notwithstanding. Germans are pretty thrifty people, so spending
money on electricity, just because of a little sunshine, is not
something many people would be prepared to do. Plus, don't
forget German houses are usually quite heavily insulated, and
what keeps in the warmth from the heating in winter is also
pretty useful for keeping out the summer heat.
[/quote]
Houses and apartments are just built better in Germany, that is
true. Like I mentioned on that other thread, my friend’s house
in Thüringen build in the late 1700s was built like a fortress.
With these thick walls that are solid as a rock it really
insulates her place beautifully.
When I travel to Germany I always stay the night before I depart
with my sister and brother-in-law because they live only 15
minutes from the San Francisco airport. Now, they have a 4
million dollar house and they don’t have air conditioning, which
totally baffles me. My brother-in-law says “Oh, it never get
that hot that we need it.” Well, I’ve been over there a few
times when they really DID need it. So hot you can’t even sleep
at night. But, for them it doesn’t last long.
Where I live nobody doesn’t have an air conditioner in their
house or apartment. That’s unheard of. You couldn’t survive the
Summers here without it. When it gets so hot you can't even go
outside, except to get in your car and turn its air conditioner
on, you know you need it. I leave my air conditioner on all
night at home and set it at 20C. It doesn’t run all night but I
really dislike the heat. And, I couldn’t care less what the
electricity cost is. It’s worth it.
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