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Re: Indian Scammer Calls
By: SHL Date: May 31, 2019, 10:45 pm
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[quote author=MartinSR link=topic=1113.msg16343#msg16343
date=1559341140]
This type of scam explained by Chizuko is very popular in Poland
too. It's called the 'Grandchild scam' here. There is also the
modified version 'The policeman' scam, when the caller warns an
elderly person about the scammer working in that area,
pretending to be someone's grandson. He says that they are sure
the person may be the scammer's next victim and assure the
elderly person that the scammer must get the money to be caught
with it by the police immediately. So the victim gives the money
to the criminal thinking that is helping the police.
Of course there are many scammers offering cheap loans, bank
deposits with very high interest, insurances, New cable TV or
phone plans, and so on. The victim thinks he is called by his
phone/tv/insurance company which is offering him the better
conditions... And after some time he realises that he starts
receiving bills from two companies for the same thing... Or that
his old company demands him to pay the penalty for breaking the
agreement too early.
The scammer often says he works for the company which was hired
by the victim's previous provider especially for the purpose of
reconstructing clients' agreements.
I got a few calls from people who insisted to check (Or rather
steal) my personal data who were unable to give me the name of
the company they were pretending to be working for.
But the most hilarious situation was when the person from my
real insurance company called me with a proposal. I have a
combined life-retirement insurance there. The caller said
something like that:
Thank you for being such a great customer of our company. We've
prepared the new product especially for the customers like you.
We offer you an additional insurance in case you may die in
traffic accident. You know, the winter is coming and the roads
are more slippery, so the risk if traffic accident is rising. So
we think you will like the idea of purchasing our new product.
Don't you?
[/quote]
That is hilarious, Martin. The roads are slippery so you might
not be around much longer- Hence, it would be a real bargain to
buy our new life insurance policy! Act now before it‘s too late
and the weather gets better. Oh my. That‘s reassuring. ;)
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Re: Indian Scammer Calls
By: SHL Date: May 31, 2019, 11:08 pm
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[quote author=Chizuko link=topic=1113.msg16325#msg16325
date=1559314373]
[quote]I didn‘t know these scammers tried to scam their own
people.[/quote]
Scammers don't care who is from where. You might not believe
this story, but you'll be surprised. It's a true story. In
Japan, Lots of scammers steal money from the elderly. The
scammers are Japanese and pretend to be the victims' grandson
and call them.
Their first word is "It's me. It's me." The elderly victims,
grandpa and grandma answer, "Me? oh, are you Ken?" Then scammers
say, "Yes, yes, it's Ken. I'm sorry, grandma, I didn't call you
for a long time. I'm missing you but I'm in trouble now. I hit a
car and need some money, but I'm in the hospital so can't come
to your place but my friend is coming instead. Please pass some
money to him. He is bringing it to me in the hospital. It's very
far from your house, grandma. Please help me, I love you."
Lots of grandparents have been deceived. It's called "Me Me
Scam". It's Ore Ore Sagi in Japanese. All Japanese know the
naming. I'm mad at those scammers!
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Chizuko,
That is really interesting. And, that‘s a scam I never heard of
but it is clever, in a diabolical way. Why can‘t these people
get real jobs and make an honest living? And, the things they
dream up? It is just appalling. Martin‘s example of people
impersonating police to claim they need the money to run a kind
of „sting“ operation on scammers (as we would call it) is indeed
a very clever spin on the same sort of scam you described. It‘s
like there is no end to what these people will dream up.
There‘s a German guy on YouTube, whose channel is „call center
fun“, and he records illegal unsolicited callers and then
uploads them to YouTube. They‘re all in German, but they are
really funny. The callers are normally fairly low-grade
scammers, it seems, either trying to sell the person magazine
subscriptions or claiming they won a free holiday somewhere, if
they only pay a small fee. Surely, they are just out for bank
account information to probably empty someone‘s bank account.
The guy on the channel usually flirts with the female callers
and gets them laughing. On one call, the lady said he had won a
vacation trip to Sylt or someplace in Spain or something, and
that he only needed to pay a small reservation deposit with his
bank account number. Of course, he never gave it to her. He told
her he would only go on the trip if she agreed to go with him,
because he liked her voice on the phone. She laughed and said
she was married or something, and he said that shouldn’t matter,
just make an excuse for her husband. Then he said, „I can
promise you I‘m not ugly. But, at the same time, I‘m not the
most handsome man there is out there either. I‘d say I‘m a good
middle.“ That really got her laughing.
Then he got one woman really mad at him after wasting an hour of
the call center‘s time on the phone and not giving the bank
information. She said she was going to sue him or call the
police for wasting her time. He then asked how, since he had
never given them his real name or address. Then she hung up on
him.
Normally, in Germany anyway, one really popular call involves
selling reduced energy contracts. They ask how much your
electric bill runs and if you have gas. That way they try to get
bank account information. The YouTube guy says he doesn‘t know
the company name he uses so he has to go to the basement to find
it in a box. So, then he wastes their time that way.
I‘m glad everyone mentioned this because I had no idea this was
going on all over the world.
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