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Newspeak
By: Truman Overby Date: May 28, 2019, 8:41 am
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Conspiracy def: An agreement to perform together an illegal,
wrongful, or subversive act.
We need a new word. Example: You don't think Kennedy was killed
by one guy using an old, worn-out, inaccurate { Italian! [ Junk
] } rifle not suited to the task and you get labeled a
'conspiracy theorist.'
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Re: Newspeak
By: Alharacas Date: May 28, 2019, 10:32 am
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I don't quite see what you're getting at, Jerry. Correct me if
I'm wrong, but if somebody believes producers of sedans* got
together and decided to murder President Kennedy because his
preference for convertibles was detrimental to their business -
which would qualify as a conspiracy, right? - then that somebody
believes in a conspiracy and is therefore a conspiracy theorist,
isn't he?
*Oops, I've just found out that "sedan" and "convertible" are
not antonyms. Sigh. Well, you know what I mean, don't you?
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Re: Newspeak
By: Truman Overby Date: May 28, 2019, 11:13 am
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[quote author=Alharacas link=topic=1110.msg16249#msg16249
date=1559057577]
I don't quite see what you're getting at, Jerry. Correct me if
I'm wrong, but if somebody believes producers of sedans* got
together and decided to murder President Kennedy because his
preference for convertibles was detrimental to their business -
which would qualify as a conspiracy, right? - then that somebody
believes in a conspiracy and is therefore a conspiracy theorist,
isn't he?
*Oops, I've just found out that "sedan" and "convertible" are
not antonyms. Sigh. Well, you know what I mean, don't you?
[/quote]
What I mean is that if you don't swallow the official line, then
you're a conspiracy theorist. At least that's how the term is
used over here in the New World. ;D
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Re: Newspeak
By: Alharacas Date: May 28, 2019, 11:25 am
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So, what do you suggest, Jerry? Dubitationist? Suspicionist? Me,
I'm rather in favor of "sinistrologist". Or how about "spinner"?
(You'd just need to ignore the word's German meaning. ;) )
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Re: Newspeak
By: Truman Overby Date: May 28, 2019, 11:39 am
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[quote author=Alharacas link=topic=1110.msg16251#msg16251
date=1559060717]
So, what do you suggest, Jerry? Dubitationist? Suspicionist? Me,
I'm rather in favor of "sinistrologist". Or how about "spinner"?
(You'd just need to ignore the word's German meaning. ;) )
[/quote]
Suspicionist has a rather nice ring to it. Good job. ;) Or
maybe just skeptic or sceptic.
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Re: Newspeak
By: Nikola Date: May 28, 2019, 11:48 am
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Or cynic.
[img width=173
height=300]
HTML http://pediaa.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Difference-Between-Skepticism-and-Cynicism-infographic.jpg[/img]
#Post#: 16369--------------------------------------------------
Re: Newspeak
By: SHL Date: June 1, 2019, 6:17 pm
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Yeah, a Spinner would be a good word.
I‘ve never gone in for conspiracy theories. I liked that old
Oliver Stone movie from the 90s or so, JFK I think it was
called. But, after awhile, I‘ve noticed that conspiracy theories
sort of fade away, maybe have a shelf life and then no one
cares.
It‘s like the 9/11 conspiracy theorists.
Noam Chomsky gave a good talk on this several times. He doesn’t
mention it here, but I heard him say that, as a general rule,
secrets are pretty hard to keep, especially on something as
large as the 9/11 conspiracy theory, but he goes on to make a
couple of pretty valid points:
HTML https://youtu.be/3b_nI6DlZP0
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Re: Newspeak
By: Alharacas Date: June 1, 2019, 6:40 pm
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[quote author=Beech 18 link=topic=1110.msg16252#msg16252
date=1559061569]
[quote author=Alharacas link=topic=1110.msg16251#msg16251
date=1559060717]
So, what do you suggest, Jerry? Dubitationist? Suspicionist? Me,
I'm rather in favor of "sinistrologist". Or how about "spinner"?
(You'd just need to ignore the word's German meaning. ;) )
[/quote]
Suspicionist has a rather nice ring to it. Good job. ;) Or
maybe just skeptic or sceptic.
[/quote]
Hmm... I wonder whether you'd like to become a member:
HTML https://www.skeptic.com/
:D
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