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       European Parliament Election
       By: Nikola Date: May 21, 2019, 3:01 pm
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       It's almost here. I was just looking at the candidates and
       wondering why so many anti-EU parties are trying to win seats in
       the European Parliament. It's a bit of a strange concept. Are
       they hoping to disintegrate it from the inside? How much damage
       could they realistically do if they win one third of the seats,
       as some pessimistic sources suggest?
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       Re: European Parliament Election
       By: SHL Date: May 21, 2019, 3:26 pm
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       [quote author=Nikola link=topic=1078.msg15897#msg15897
       date=1558468888]
       It's almost here. I was just looking at the candidates and
       wondering why so many anti-EU parties are trying to win seats in
       the European Parliament. It's a bit of a strange concept. Are
       they hoping to disintegrate it from the inside? How much damage
       could they realistically do if they win one third of the seats,
       as some pessimistic sources suggest?
       [/quote]
       I did hear Nikola, that there was a rising sentiment among some
       politicians in the EU, who actually were beginning to disfavor
       the EU. Not as extreme as the Brexit crowd, but it seems to be
       increasing.
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       Re: European Parliament Election
       By: NealC Date: May 21, 2019, 4:45 pm
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       What does the European Parliament do, exactly?
       #Post#: 15901--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Parliament Election
       By: Nikola Date: May 21, 2019, 5:09 pm
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       As far as I know, it deals with the budget, legislation
       (alongside the Council of the EU, which, by the way, is not the
       same as the European Council, I just found out) and decides
       which new countries will join the EU. The Parliament doesn't
       propose new laws, though. That's something the European
       Commission does.
       It's all explained here:
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Parliament
       #Post#: 15907--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Parliament Election
       By: Aliph Date: May 22, 2019, 2:51 am
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       It’s really sad. I think that a strong Europe bothers all those
       who would like to keep their leadership over the world. And the
       far right is rising everywhere. It’s scaring.
  HTML https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/22/far-right-facebook-groups-spreading-hate-to-millions-in-europe?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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       Re: European Parliament Election
       By: Nikola Date: May 22, 2019, 3:37 am
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       I'm not on Facebook but I know that here, these kind of groups
       send emails to people of my parents' age to make them panic.
       They're usually pictures of large crowds of refugees, some
       made-up statistics and claims that "this is what the EU wants".
       It's a campaign built on hate and fear and it seems to work.
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       Re: European Parliament Election
       By: NealC Date: May 22, 2019, 4:00 am
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       Thank you for the link Sofia, it is interesting that Facebook
       has the same problem in Europe that they have in the US.  Do you
       really think this is the work of larger forces against Europe or
       is it just clever people in small organizations stoking
       political fire in support of their candidates or issues.  I had
       always believed it was smaller operators, but both Russian and
       Chinese sites tried to influence our 2016 elections.
       How do they get the emails?  Unless the front pages qualify the
       prospects in some way it would be like any other junk email.  I
       imagine this is where the genius of having special interest
       pages comes in.  "Oh that is an email from my
       sports/health/fashion Facebook group I like so much, I wonder
       what they want..."
       @Steve if you could get over to Europe this might be a great job
       for you, as you have the special facility of turning every
       conversation (even your recent personal health issues) to an
       indictment of the opposing political party.  You would make an
       excellent small group infiltrator/facilitator.
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       Re: European Parliament Election
       By: Nikola Date: May 22, 2019, 4:30 am
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       The emails are just spread among the old generation who are not
       very skilled with computers. Many of them only know how to
       receive and send emails and they get them from their friends so
       they open them. These topics are appealing to both far-right and
       far-left voters and there are many socialists over 60 in this
       country. Almost everyone has a lefty friend. They share jokes,
       songs, videos of dogs in the snow, you know that kind of stuff.
       And once in a while, this junk arrives. There was a program on
       TV about this. They managed to find one guy who writes this
       stuff. An old bitter guy who has nothing better to do. They
       asked why he was writing something that wasn't true and he
       answered "I can write whatever I want".
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