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       The US - Saudi Arabia Relations SPLIT FROM: A personal conspirac
       y theory: where is the most expensiv
       By: Truman Overby Date: May 19, 2019, 10:48 am
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       [quote author=Sofia link=topic=1067.msg15757#msg15757
       date=1558280506]
       It’s just incredible how everybody has competences in valuating
       the authenticity of this painting. I think you all missed your
       true vocation.  :o
       So Sotheby’s agents are conmen or/and MBS is an ignorant,
       uncultured fool. A pity that the “great American president”
       loves him so much.
       [/quote]
       I didn't evaluate the painting. I repeated what I had read by
       experts. I'm not an art expert, as you apparently are. You
       should send Sotheby's your CV. Why is this so personal to you?
       It doesn't matter to me one whit who painted it or when or why.
       Hell, maybe a horse painted it. Who cares. Again, why is this so
       important to you that you need to take a dig at other members
       here. Our opinions on the matter are worth just as much as
       yours. That is to say zero.
       Bringing Trump into something totally unrelated. This is what we
       call Trump Derangement Syndrome.
       #Post#: 15760--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The US - Saudi Arabia Relations SPLIT FROM: A personal consp
       iracy theory: where is the most expensiv
       By: Aliph Date: May 19, 2019, 11:02 am
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       Jerry, I never pretended to have any competences in the field of
       arts.
       I might have TDS it is possible. But I am sincerely scared that
       the current American president listens a bit too much to the
       regime in Saudi Arabia. After all, we are more close to the
       region than you Americans are geographically. And if there is a
       real war against Iran (and Russia) and not only by proxy like it
       was in Syria and currently in Yemen, one can be legitimately
       scared.
       And last but not least the Saudis are as much obsessed about
       Iran as Israel, another big friend of your beloved president.
       I know I am digressing from my original topic, but that is not
       forbidden on EGP.
       #Post#: 15764--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The US - Saudi Arabia Relations SPLIT FROM: A personal consp
       iracy theory: where is the most expensiv
       By: Truman Overby Date: May 19, 2019, 12:05 pm
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       [quote author=Sofia link=topic=1067.msg15760#msg15760
       date=1558281748]
       Jerry, I never pretended to have any competences in the field of
       arts.
       I might have TDS it is possible. But I am sincerely scared that
       the current American president listens a bit too much to the
       regime in Saudi Arabia. After all, we are more close to the
       region than you Americans are geographically. And if there is a
       real war against Iran (and Russia) and not only by proxy like it
       was in Syria and currently in Yemen, one can be legitimately
       scared.
       And last but not least the Saudis are as much obsessed about
       Iran as Israel, another big friend of your beloved president.
       I know I am digressing from my original topic, but that is not
       forbidden on EGP.
       [/quote]
       I know that you're young, under 30, I think. And that's okay.
       What you don't know is that all Presidents of the U.S. have been
       friendly with the Sauds. It's all about oil and the strategic
       location of Saudi Arabia. What did you think of your man Obama
       bowing and kissing the ring of the King of Saudi Arabia? No,
       it's not a conspiracy theory. I saw it when it happened. It
       caused outrage here that he would bow to the leader of another
       country. Look it up, the picture is out there.
       As far as Israel. THE U.S. is a longtime supporter of Israel.
       The strength of support varies with administrations. For
       example, Obama was virulently anti-Israel. Among other things he
       did, he sent teams from the U.S. government to try to get Bibi
       defeated.
       How would a war affect neutral Switzerland?
       And last but not least, the thing that I'm 'legitimately scared"
       of is sending more young American soldiers to fight and die in
       more wars for ungrateful Europeans. Make me president and I'll
       pull out all US troops, since that's what they say they want,
       and then sit back and watch total European war break out. Of
       course we'd get blamed for the massacre. You really can't win
       when you're the lone world superpower.
       #Post#: 15768--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The US - Saudi Arabia Relations SPLIT FROM: A personal consp
       iracy theory: where is the most expe
       By: Irena Date: May 19, 2019, 12:38 pm
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       [quote author=It's Me link=topic=1069.msg15764#msg15764
       date=1558285536]
       And last but not least, the thing that I'm 'legitimately scared"
       of is sending more young American soldiers to fight and die in
       more wars for ungrateful Europeans. Make me president and I'll
       pull out all US troops, since that's what they say they want,
       and then sit back and watch total European war break out. Of
       course we'd get blamed for the massacre. You really can't win
       when you're the lone world superpower.
       [/quote]
       Whaaaaat…?
       Anyway, if you can convince Mr. Trump to pull out American
       troops from, oh, just about everywhere other than the US, I'll
       be the first to cheer. So please be my guest.  8)
       #Post#: 15771--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The US - Saudi Arabia Relations SPLIT FROM: A personal consp
       iracy theory: where is the most expe
       By: NealC Date: May 19, 2019, 2:09 pm
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       I think Nato served a valuable purpose, it is time to fold up
       shop and bring the boys home.  Russia is a toothless old bear --
       European population more than doubles Russia and GNP is many
       times Russia's.  You wont see a Russian invasion of Europe.
       I am all for reducing the US overseas empire.  I thought that
       was one of the things Trump was promising.
       #Post#: 15779--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The US - Saudi Arabia Relations SPLIT FROM: A personal consp
       iracy theory: where is the most expe
       By: SHL Date: May 19, 2019, 10:28 pm
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       Jerry and Neal. Don’t forget that Trump says he needs to get to
       the “oranges” of the Mueller investigation. That’s your man  ;)
       And, are those dentures falling out of his mouth when he said
       “god blesch the United Schaetschs.”  ;D
       Or “I love Germany, my dad was born there, in a great little
       town.....” (a bit West of course.. New York City in 1905 to be
       exact).. ;D
       Hey, I sure didn’t vote for him, so don’t blame me, Sofia and
       Irena. Don’t count me among that gun-tootin crowd of cowboys.
       #Post#: 15796--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The US - Saudi Arabia Relations SPLIT FROM: A personal consp
       iracy theory: where is the most expe
       By: NealC Date: May 20, 2019, 2:12 am
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       Does anyone do dentures anymore?  It is all implants now.
       #Post#: 15799--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The US - Saudi Arabia Relations SPLIT FROM: A personal consp
       iracy theory: where is the most expe
       By: Alharacas Date: May 20, 2019, 3:34 am
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       [quote author=It's Me link=topic=1069.msg15764#msg15764
       date=1558285536]
       sending more young American soldiers to fight and die in more
       wars for ungrateful Europeans.
       [/quote]
       Jerry, please enlighten me, will you? Which wars would that be?
       Because I've been sitting here ruminating about that sentence of
       yours for half the morning now, and for the life of me, I can't
       think of a single one - except the World Wars, of course. I'm
       not sure about WWI, but you'd hardly say "we" weren't grateful
       to you for fighting WWII, would you?
       #Post#: 15813--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The US - Saudi Arabia Relations SPLIT FROM: A personal consp
       iracy theory: where is the most expe
       By: Aliph Date: May 20, 2019, 7:01 am
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       [quote author=NealC link=topic=1069.msg15771#msg15771
       date=1558292956]
       Russia is a toothless old bear -- European population more than
       doubles Russia and GNP is many times Russia's.  You wont see a
       Russian invasion of Europe.
       [/quote]
       A toothless bear? They are just supporting all the far right
       wing parties in Europe concerning the next EU elections just to
       throw around sh*i*t (I translated the French colorful expression
       « semer la merde »). France’s Marine Le Pen just kisses Putin’s
       feet.
       #Post#: 15814--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The US - Saudi Arabia Relations SPLIT FROM: A personal consp
       iracy theory: where is the most expe
       By: Aliph Date: May 20, 2019, 7:05 am
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       @ Alharacas and Jerry the Italians were grateful to the Yankees
       that liberated them during WW2 and acclaimed that shouting
       “liberatori “.
       Well italians love Americans, but Jerry doesn’t know.
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