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       Cuba's Dark Past
       By: NealC Date: May 15, 2019, 5:37 pm
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       Typing "Cuba's Dark Past" brings up hundreds of articles (if not
       thousands).
       This one is a good synopsis, for the further education of the
       ignorant.
  HTML https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/nov/27/fidel-castro-dictator-legacy-abuses
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       Re: Cuba's Dark Past
       By: Alharacas Date: May 15, 2019, 6:23 pm
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       Neal, I'm not going to sing Fidel Castro's praises, far from it,
       but while you're at it, don't forget to take a long hard look at
       what went on before, will you?
  HTML https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fulgencio_Batista
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       Re: Cuba's Dark Past
       By: NealC Date: May 15, 2019, 7:58 pm
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       The question is does Cuba have a dark past?  It is most
       assuredly answered Yes, and even more so - they have a dark
       present and a dark forseeable future.  And no, it is not because
       of the US embargo.  It is because their government is a dark
       hole that stifles humanity.
       Batista was a bad man, the U.S. was stupid for supporting him
       and allowing business interests to enslave the populous.  That
       still doesn't excuse the last 60 years.
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       Re: Cuba's Dark Past
       By: SHL Date: May 15, 2019, 11:57 pm
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       [quote author=NealC link=topic=1052.msg15524#msg15524
       date=1557968316]
       The question is does Cuba have a dark past?  It is most
       assuredly answered Yes, and even more so - they have a dark
       present and a dark forseeable future.  And no, it is not because
       of the US embargo.  It is because their government is a dark
       hole that stifles humanity.
       Batista was a bad man, the U.S. was stupid for supporting him
       and allowing business interests to enslave the populous.  That
       still doesn't excuse the last 60 years.
       [/quote]
       Neal,
       Batista was nothing but a gangster who had been in the pocket of
       the US for decades (dating I recall to the 1930s even). I read a
       biography about him once.  He was totally corrupt, but the US
       loved him.  I recall a picture taken of the back of this US run
       casino in around 1958, with these little kids with no shoes
       playing football on the street, living in this pathetic
       shantytown with no running water, behind a big neon sign
       advertising the casino.
       How did I guess it was Jerry giving you the thumbs up on that
       quote of yours Neal?
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       Re: Cuba's Dark Past
       By: NealC Date: May 16, 2019, 5:14 am
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       Clearly, you have not read the article I cited, your minds are
       already made up.  As long as it is a finger in the eye of the
       Americans the Cubans can be allowed to live in poverty and
       hopelessness.
       I would like you to transport yourself (in your mind's eye) to a
       land where you make $30/month, could get arrested for what you
       think, and despite your education you have no hope of
       advancement.  But you can walk around all day and say "Well, at
       least Batista isn't in charge".
       I would submit to you that here in 2019, people should not have
       to live like that.
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       Re: Cuba's Dark Past
       By: SHL Date: May 17, 2019, 7:45 pm
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       [quote author=NealC link=topic=1052.msg15530#msg15530
       date=1558001665]
       Clearly, you have not read the article I cited, your minds are
       already made up.  As long as it is a finger in the eye of the
       Americans the Cubans can be allowed to live in poverty and
       hopelessness.
       I would like you to transport yourself (in your mind's eye) to a
       land where you make $30/month, could get arrested for what you
       think, and despite your education you have no hope of
       advancement.  But you can walk around all day and say "Well, at
       least Batista isn't in charge".
       I would submit to you that here in 2019, people should not have
       to live like that.
       [/quote]
       Well, I think that’s a bit exaggerated. I’ve never been to Cuba,
       but I know someone who has and she thought it was great and all
       the people seemed happy and healthy. What you described sounds
       more like Haiti.
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       Re: Cuba's Dark Past
       By: NealC Date: May 17, 2019, 8:18 pm
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       I'm sure your bright eyed and bushy tailed friend enjoyed
       herself immensely.  Keeping a population in servitude is
       probably great for tourism - everyone loves a bargain!
       Disgusting.
       The people who work the hotels make more in tips in a week than
       an MD does in a month.  Too bad there is no legal way for them
       to exchange the dollars and euros they collect.
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