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       #Post#: 15034--------------------------------------------------
       Would you live in a house where a crime has been committed previ
       ously?
       By: Aliph Date: May 5, 2019, 5:21 am
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       Lately, I heard of some people who bought a house for half the
       price since nobody wanted to buy that villa. Three years ago a
       crime had been committed in it. I was shocked.
       But then I thought about all the places I had lived or slept in.
       While studying at the University on a tight budget, I rented a
       very shabby, small furnished room in a medieval building built
       in the fourteenth century. Who knows what had happened before,
       during all those centuries, in that room!
       I realize that this is a tipical European question. Since I am
       an adult, I mostly lived in old houses.
       What about you? Do you think about the previous tenants of your
       flat?
       #Post#: 15042--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would you live in a house where a crime has been committed p
       reviously?
       By: NealC Date: May 5, 2019, 9:10 am
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       The "Amityville Horror" house was a beautiful building in a
       lovely area adjoining Amityville harbor.  It sold at a deep
       discount due to all the attention from the movies.
       The new owners remodeled so the house no longer looked the same
       from the street, and petitioned the Town of Amityville to change
       the address.
       They got a bargain.
       #Post#: 15060--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would you live in a house where a crime has been committed p
       reviously?
       By: SHL Date: May 5, 2019, 12:15 pm
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       [quote author=Sofia link=topic=1022.msg15034#msg15034
       date=1557051670]
       Lately, I heard of some people who bought a house for half the
       price since nobody wanted to buy that villa. Three years ago a
       crime had been committed in it. I was shocked.
       But then I thought about all the places I had lived or slept in.
       While studying at the University on a tight budget, I rented a
       very shabby, small furnished room in a medieval building built
       in the fourteenth century. Who knows what had happened before,
       during all those centuries, in that room!
       I realize that this is a tipical European question. Since I am
       an adult, I mostly lived in old houses.
       What about you? Do you think about the previous tenants of your
       flat?
       [/quote]
       I think that sounds like a great business investment. Buy old
       houses people superstitiously think are haunted for half the
       price. What a wonderful idea. The problem in the US is people
       rarely live in houses more than 100 years old, and mostly in new
       in houses or those up to 70 years old.
       #Post#: 15064--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would you live in a house where a crime has been committed p
       reviously?
       By: Truman Overby Date: May 5, 2019, 12:37 pm
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       Depends on what the crime was. Writing a bad check is a crime.
       Do you mean a heinous crime?
       #Post#: 15089--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would you live in a house where a crime has been committed p
       reviously?
       By: Aliph Date: May 5, 2019, 2:15 pm
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       [quote author=Keep America Great!
       link=topic=1022.msg15064#msg15064 date=1557077856]
       Depends on what the crime was. Writing a bad check is a crime.
       Do you mean a heinous crime?
       [/quote]
       Of course, a heinous, violent crime. Domestic violence for
       instance with several death.
       I really would have some problems with that. Probably because
       about other crimes, I imagine that many people are anyway trying
       to cheat.
       #Post#: 15103--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would you live in a house where a crime has been committed p
       reviously?
       By: Alharacas Date: May 5, 2019, 5:14 pm
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       My house is about 150 years old, so I agree with you, Sofia,
       since people didn't use to die in hospitals back then, I suppose
       quite a few people must have died here. The thought has never
       bothered me, and I don't think it would change anything if I
       knew there had been a violent death among them.
       And yes, I do sometimes speculate about the people who built the
       house (I don't know anything about them, since the house has
       changed hands various times), mostly feeling sorry for them. It
       still had the kind of heating* usually installed in Germany at
       the time it was built, and when I moved in, it took one person
       all day, every day, to keep it going - that is, if we wanted the
       temperature in the whole house just a little above freezing.
       A couple of weeks ago, an elderly woman came by to have a look
       at the house. She said she'd spent some time here right after
       the end of the war, and she told me stories about rapes, and
       young women being hidden from soldiers in a cavity under the
       threshing floor, and the lady of the house crawling through the
       dog's hut to bring them food. Not sure how much of that I
       believe, considering she was quite a small child at the time.
       *If you'd like to know what it was like, have a look at this:
  HTML https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kachelofen
       Only, of course, mine were not at all beautiful, more of the
       mustard-yellow eyesore variety. I had about 7 of them, one in
       every room. They eat coal - which takes ages to light - lots and
       lots of it. And even when you've managed to get the bloody
       things practically glowing hot, so hot you can't even touch them
       anymore, they won't heat any but the tiniest room to more than
       about 12 - 14° Celsius (about 54 - 57 Fahrenheit). And let's not
       talk about taking out the ash - it's bright yellow, stinks like
       rotten eggs and gets absolutely everywhere.
       #Post#: 15107--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would you live in a house where a crime has been committed p
       reviously?
       By: Truman Overby Date: May 5, 2019, 5:41 pm
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       Don't you feel guilty, Susanne, contributing to 'man-made global
       warming' all of those years? I'm shocked you'd do such a thing.
       #Post#: 15114--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would you live in a house where a crime has been committed p
       reviously?
       By: Alharacas Date: May 6, 2019, 2:46 am
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       Can't have contributed all that much, considering how little
       warmth was actually generated.  ;D
       #Post#: 15116--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would you live in a house where a crime has been committed p
       reviously?
       By: NealC Date: May 6, 2019, 4:33 am
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       What are they made out of?  The ones in the picture are very
       beautiful.  I cannot imagine a house heated like that without
       servants.  It sounds like a Franklin stove would have worked
       better.  That is really interesting, I don't know of a
       corresponding US heating method.
       As for the ash, that has to be connected to the amount of sulfur
       in the coal to begin with, I don't think it was because of the
       way it was burned.
       #Post#: 15163--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Would you live in a house where a crime has been committed p
       reviously?
       By: Alharacas Date: May 7, 2019, 10:01 am
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       [quote author=NealC link=topic=1022.msg15116#msg15116
       date=1557135238]
       What are they made out of?  The ones in the picture are very
       beautiful.  I cannot imagine a house heated like that without
       servants.  It sounds like a Franklin stove would have worked
       better.  That is really interesting, I don't know of a
       corresponding US heating method.
       As for the ash, that has to be connected to the amount of sulfur
       in the coal to begin with, I don't think it was because of the
       way it was burned.
       [/quote]
       From the outside, they look like ordinary (or ornate, as the
       case may be) bathroom tiles, but when you turn them over,
       they're actually bowl-shaped. If you google images "Ofenkachel
       Rückseite" you may get some results. :)
       And the whole thing is built and glued together with loam. Think
       ancient bread or pizza ovens, maybe? Unglazed, flue-shaped bits
       inside, too, for the hot-air conducts. No, I know you haven't
       got anything like that in the US, that's why I gave the link. ;)
       They do have similar whatchamacallits further east, though, in
       Russia, for example.
       The first apartment I moved into in Berlin (ca. 1988) had the
       same kind of heating, BTW, and it was nothing special at the
       time, not in Berlin, anyway, nor in most of the GDR. That's why
       there was that rotten-egg smell blanketing all of Eastern
       Germany in winter. And yes, I'm sure it's to do with sulfur
       content.
       Servants - well, yes, poor things! And in more affluent houses
       (mine, as I said, is/was a farm house), these "ovens" usually
       connected to some (servants') passageway, with their openings
       (little iron doors) on that side of the wall. Meaning you'd have
       the beautiful (and warm) thingy in your room, but coal would be
       put in (and ash taken out) from the passageway.
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