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       #Post#: 14759--------------------------------------------------
       European Union citizenship 
       By: Aliph Date: April 26, 2019, 10:36 am
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       At last I found a solution for SHL who would like to acquire
       German citizenship. As everybody knows Germany is a leading
       member of the European Union.
       So is Cyprus! Still european but so close to the Middle East.
       One can buy a Cypriot citizenship for his whole family (with EU
       citizenship) if he invests two million euros in the country.
       I do not know how many dollars SHL has in the bank, sadly I
       guess not as many. The Euro is quite high these days, despite
       Brexit.
  HTML https://cyprus-alliance.com/immigration/citizenship?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIq7y7zaft4QIVjY8YCh10eQ53EAEYASAAEgLKE_D_BwE
       #Post#: 14760--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Union citizenship 
       By: SHL Date: April 26, 2019, 1:25 pm
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       If you have that kind of money, getting a visa to live in the EU
       should not be a problem for anyone. Most countries (and the US
       included) have what are called „investors visas“. So, if you‘ve
       got enough money (a few million probably) you can just hand a
       local immigration law firm a $50,000€ retainer and say „get me a
       visa“ and they‘ll figure out a way to make it happen, if you
       have the capital to invest. They likely would say invest a
       million in starting any kind of business, hire 10 locals to work
       for you, pay their benefits, minimum wage, and comply with the
       labor laws and you‘ll get a visa. No country with any kind of
       social welfare safety net wants only economic immigrants doing
       jobs any local person could do. It‘s too risky and potentially
       costly. But if you can prove you won‘t be burden on a country‘s
       economy, they are normally ok with having you. Exceptions are,
       of course, marriage to a citizen or asylum status. Immigration
       law is highly complex everywhere in the world, but this is just
       a general outline of what is likely to be true. Many countries,
       like the US, probably have special visas for people with
       celebrity status or some sort of notoriety, and most of those
       people  have high net worth anyway.
       #Post#: 14761--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Union citizenship 
       By: Aliph Date: April 26, 2019, 2:57 pm
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       Since I wrote that post, Google doesn’t stop to offer me
       advertisements for buying a second citizenship through
       investment. There are cheaper passports but who wants to live in
       the Caribbean?
  HTML http://secondpassport.me
       #Post#: 14766--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Union citizenship 
       By: SHL Date: April 26, 2019, 8:36 pm
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       [quote author=Sofia link=topic=1002.msg14761#msg14761
       date=1556308656]
       Since I wrote that post, Google doesn’t stop to offer me
       advertisements for buying a second citizenship through
       investment. There are cheaper passports but who wants to live in
       the Caribbean?
  HTML http://secondpassport.me
       [/quote]
       Yeah, I‘ve known about those for a long time. Dominica as I
       recall actually was selling citizenship for something like
       $500,000? But, like you said, who wants to live in/on Dominica?
       There are cheaper alternatives. I read somewhere that the
       Dominican Republic was fairly easy to get a visa to live in
       requiring only a few thousand dollars deposited to a local bank.
       Paraguay used to have something like that too, a $3,000 bank
       deposit for a residency visa and a 3 year track to citizenship
       without requiring continuous residency or something? Yes, there
       are those out-of-the-way places. Downside: you have to learn
       Spanish (which might be an upside depending on if you want to
       learn Spanish or already know it). Yeah, changing residence into
       the Schengen/EU is not easy to do. Even immigrating to the US is
       not that easy. Remember when they had that green-card lottery
       thing going? That‘s all been done away with now. But, we do have
       „sanctuary cities“ like San Francisco or Seattle (and there are
       many more), where if you can get there, the local government
       won‘t help the federal authorities in tracking you down and
       deporting you if your immigration status is illegal. It doesn‘t
       prevent the Feds from finding and deporting you, but helps
       people sort of go underground.
       There are various YouTube clips of a guy named O`Keefe who was a
       former US Marine, who went to Holland and applied for political
       asylum after burning his US Passport in the streets of Amsterdam
       or The Hague or someplace, and being on TV. Then the US Embassy
       just sent him another one. The Dutch put him on some
       „fast-track“ asylum processing system to process his application
       in like 10 days (it was like an auto-reject system), but he got
       a well-known Dutch immigration and human rights lawyer to
       represent him, I think for free, and then they put him on the
       regular asylum system. Somehow the guy wound up getting Irish
       citizenship, so the whole issue became moot, but then he ended
       up living with his girlfriend in the Dominican Republic or
       someplace like that. Weird story.
       #Post#: 14767--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Union citizenship 
       By: SHL Date: April 26, 2019, 9:14 pm
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       Oh, and one other thing Sofia. You have to be careful of
       websites like that one you linked to. I looked at it and it has
       all the hallmarks of a scam. Big price tags on various
       countries, like they were selling cars or something? If they
       want personal information, that‘s a red flag. Or promise things
       that are too good to be true, all for a fee. I have to block
       probably 4 or 5 unwanted calls from solicitors each day trying
       to sell something or scam me in some way. We don‘t have the
       protections you may have in the EU (I know Germany does) that
       protects you from unwanted solicitor calls. In the US it‘s open
       season, with the only people not legally being allowed to cold
       call people being lawyers, to my knowledge. The solicitor calls
       in Germany still go on, but I doubt they are as numerous and
       annoying as what we have to put up with.
       #Post#: 14770--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Union citizenship 
       By: Susan Date: April 27, 2019, 10:33 am
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       Are you sure the U.S. visa lottery has been done away with?  Are
       you not talking about this?
  HTML https://dvlottery.state.gov/
       #Post#: 14773--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Union citizenship 
       By: NealC Date: April 27, 2019, 11:31 am
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       Steve's best hope for EU citizenship is if I adopt him after I
       get my Italian citizenship.  $500,000. USD -- not even Euros.
       Hell of a bargain compared to Cyprus.
       If you act now I will even let you keep your last name!
       #Post#: 14780--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Union citizenship 
       By: Truman Overby Date: April 27, 2019, 12:23 pm
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       [quote author=Susan link=topic=1002.msg14770#msg14770
       date=1556379221]
       Are you sure the U.S. visa lottery has been done away with?  Are
       you not talking about this?
  HTML https://dvlottery.state.gov/
       [/quote]
       I think this is the last year for it, Susan. Our wise president
       saw the damage that it was doing to our nation. Thank God.
       #Post#: 14783--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Union citizenship 
       By: SHL Date: April 27, 2019, 3:51 pm
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       [quote author=NealC link=topic=1002.msg14773#msg14773
       date=1556382678]
       Steve's best hope for EU citizenship is if I adopt him after I
       get my Italian citizenship.  $500,000. USD -- not even Euros.
       Hell of a bargain compared to Cyprus.
       If you act now I will even let you keep your last name!
       [/quote]
       Wow, Neal, what a bargain. $500,000.
       I‘m sure I could figure out a way to get it for less than that.
       #Post#: 14784--------------------------------------------------
       Re: European Union citizenship 
       By: SHL Date: April 27, 2019, 4:00 pm
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       [quote author=Keep America Great!
       link=topic=1002.msg14780#msg14780 date=1556385785]
       [quote author=Susan link=topic=1002.msg14770#msg14770
       date=1556379221]
       Are you sure the U.S. visa lottery has been done away with?  Are
       you not talking about this?
  HTML https://dvlottery.state.gov/
       [/quote]
       I think this is the last year for it, Susan. Our wise president
       saw the damage that it was doing to our nation. Thank God.
       [/quote]
       Our „wise“ President? Like the one who said „We have to get to
       the „oranges“ of the Mueller investigation, what‘s behind it,
       the origin, you know, the „oranges“ behind it.“ The one who said
       (twice in the same interview) that his father was born in
       Germany, when his father was born in New York and it was his
       grandfather who was born there? Or the one who wandered past
       this own car to pick him up after getting off Air Force One, and
       had to have an aid run up and turn him around to show him where
       the car was (right in front of his eyes)?
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