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       Things I think Valve should change in the future
       By: The Entire US Army Date: September 1, 2012, 1:40 am
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       1. Allow balloonicorn, rainblower etc to become visible outside
       of Pyrovision. Seriously, nobody wears the goggles anymore, and
       if they don't change things then it's going to be a bunch of
       good items wasted.
       2. Make MvM free. Eventually, the items will become quite common
       and cheap, and I doubt anyone would play Mann Up anymore.
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       Re: Things I think Valve should change in the future
       By: millak Date: September 1, 2012, 1:57 am
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       Im sorry, how are we supposed to change these things? i Totally
       agree with the make man-up free, but i thought i could see
       ballunicorn's withought pyrovision allready... i used to have
       one and i could see it no matter what!
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       Re: Things I think Valve should change in the future
       By: _Ethanator_ Date: September 1, 2012, 5:03 am
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       Haha, Millak, itd be stupid if you couldnt see a balloonicorn
       without also wearing pyrovision goggles, so as a side effect of
       equipting one,"could see it no matter what", as you said,  is
       because when you equipt a Balloonicorn you go to pyroland
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       Re: Things I think Valve should change in the future
       By: Coolman Date: September 1, 2012, 5:23 am
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       Agreed  ;D
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       Re: Things I think Valve should change in the future
       By: millak Date: September 1, 2012, 6:18 am
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       Then waht is the entire us army talking about make them visible?
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       Re: Things I think Valve should change in the future
       By: _Ethanator_ Date: September 1, 2012, 10:07 pm
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       If you are wearign a balloonicorn, pyrovision, rainblower etc,
       you can see it and other peoples ones. However, if you are not
       wearing one of them and another person is, you cannot see
       theirs.
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       Re: Things I think Valve should change in the future
       By: millak Date: September 1, 2012, 10:35 pm
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       I never knew that! thought i could just allways see them.
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       Re: Things I think Valve should change in the future
       By: Zekraviax Date: September 2, 2012, 4:42 am
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       The idea of seeing them outside of Pyroland makes the goggles
       and things redundant. There would be no reason to go to Pyroland
       other than to be 'best friends' with someone. But I agree with
       the Mann vs. Machine stuff.
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       Re: Things I think Valve should change in the future
       By: millak Date: September 2, 2012, 6:54 am
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       YES! why did nobody untill now say what zekraviax just said?
       that is EXACTLY right! what other reason is there to go to
       pyroland? to see "mm mmh" instead of "controll point"? to have
       annoying swirly colours? no, to be able to see special items!
       that is a GREAT insentive imo.
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       Re: Things I think Valve should change in the future
       By: Zekraviax Date: September 2, 2012, 5:44 pm
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       [quote author=millak link=topic=113.msg1284#msg1284
       date=1346586867]
       YES! why did nobody untill now say what zekraviax just said?
       that is EXACTLY right! what other reason is there to go to
       pyroland? to see "mm mmh" instead of "controll point"? to have
       annoying swirly colours? no, to be able to see special items!
       that is a GREAT insentive imo.
       [/quote]
       I think some people like the brightly coloured maps, and the "mm
       mph"'s aren't really that noticeable.
       Also, Incentive*
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