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       #Post#: 476--------------------------------------------------
       The origin of clan Sand
       By: Whirlwind[Sand] Date: May 28, 2013, 12:20 am
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       Hello, I'm Whirlwind[Sand], the founder of Clan Sand (July 04
       2004). I have written another post on the sand site, but I was
       sort of drunk when I wrote it so I'll try to make it concise and
       simple.  First of all. you can say I'm really proud of its
       history and what it has achieved over the past decade. Those
       sleepless nights weren't for nothing.
       Why did you make clan Sand?
       Clan Sand started as a desire for me to bring Snipers to Europe.
       Why Europe?
       Europe would give me the best ping, 300 ms. Also it was
       untapped.
       What did clan Sand play initially?
       Snipers Remix.
       Why Remix?
       There was already a Sniper clan that just installed themselves
       on Europe playing Elite Snipers. Unfortunately, it wasn't very
       successful at making the game popular. I thought I'd try with
       Remix. Second, I love Snipers Remix (it's kinda like my baby),
       much more than Elite Snipers and right now, I won't debate with
       you why I prefer it. It's my personal opinion.
       Obviously, introducing a map the server has never played before
       and making a clan based around it was hard. Real hard. I've
       spent countless games teaching beginners how to a-walk, what
       items to get etc. I think you US Easterners and Westerners had
       it real easy with a community that was already familiar with the
       game coming from Starcraft. Having to build the TFT community
       from scratch was a daunting feat, and you know well that Snipers
       isn't a noob friendly game, making it even harder to get people
       interested in it.
       How popular was it?
       I think I succeeded in making the map semi popular on the
       server. At one point, there wouldn't a game without remix being
       hosted. Clan Sand has also spawned a few knock off clans that
       pitted against us as rivals. One I remember the most was clan
       PHAM from 2005, a French Snipers Remix clan which got made
       following the map's popularity on Europe. It really took a whole
       year to build that following.
       The clan moved from Snipers Remix to Elimination Tournament in
       2007, and 2008 onwards, the clan changed to Warlock. Now we're
       back to the original Elite Snipers. But that's a topic for
       another day.
       Conclusion
       To be fair, I don't know for how long I'll continue playing
       Snipers. I sorta gave up following the clan's demise in 2011,
       but Plague[Sand] rekindled my interest in it, and Death[Sand],
       an old Remix Sand player which I played together with in 2005,
       and of course, Tom who's keeping track of Sniper's history all
       makes it worth the trouble. I'm trying to get a lot of old Sands
       back, but most of them have moved to other games and have lives
       on their own.
       #Post#: 477--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The origin of clan Sand
       By: Tom Date: May 28, 2013, 3:27 pm
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       Cool stuff, thanks for the shoutout! ;) I hope you stay with us
       for as long as you can.
       #Post#: 483--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The origin of clan Sand
       By: Whirlwind[Sand] Date: May 28, 2013, 9:09 pm
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       I will stay, but I don't know for how long I'll continue playing
       Snipers. I will have to quit in a few months due to the
       connection back home being pretty horrible. To be fair, I have
       stopped playing competitively around 6 years ago and I'm well my
       past my prime. Death[Sand] wasn't one of our prominent members
       to be fair, but now seeing his contributions to Sand, I think
       it's fair to say that he among others is fit to carry on the
       Sand Legacy. As far as I'm aware of, pretty much everyone of the
       1st Generation of Sand (2003-2007) has moved on from Warcraft 3.
       I read your history of Snipers. So I guess that makes me a
       second generation Sniper? I spent around a year on US East and
       West before relocating to Europe for good in 2004.
       [quote]I would describe the second generation of snipers as
       legendary, arrogant, talented, and competitive.[/quote]
       You summed it up. I don't know how bad the arrogance and map
       hacking got in the third Generation but at that time I had
       already moved on. I couldn't stand the community. I saw Europe
       as an untouched land and made myself King of the Hill there. You
       could say I started European sniping. :)
       #Post#: 484--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The origin of clan Sand
       By: Tom Date: May 28, 2013, 9:32 pm
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       Yes, I have you marked down as a 2nd generation player, haha.
       Yeah Hunter is definitely worthy!
       #Post#: 717--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The origin of clan Sand
       By: vasilisk[sand] Date: August 18, 2013, 4:10 pm
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       And where is allmighty me in alll this ? (
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