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       #Post#: 178--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The History of Snipers [COMPLETE]
       By: SniPerr Date: January 26, 2013, 1:42 pm
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       Guys
       Im considering a break for me...... ( its not sure)
       i will explain later, when im on..
       its not a nice reason, some of u willl think that is isnt true (
       more info later)
       :(((
       #Post#: 225--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The History of Snipers [COMPLETE]
       By: Bungie Date: February 9, 2013, 9:34 pm
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       Read the whole thing. Great diction Tom, never knew you were a
       well-spoken guy. I can spot out I belong in the second
       generation of snipers. I played with Anima. Never knew which
       part of "history" i belonged in, but this is a great summation
       of a great game as we all  know it, Snipers. P.S. I also read
       the thread on Cele's accusation of you mhing. Now that is solid,
       evidential proof of you admitting to map hacking back when you
       used to play DoTa and also the era of snipers, "where everyone
       mhed." That is no real excuse. But i believe you don't map hack
       anymore and you continue to thrive and keep the game alive, and
       for that, you earned my respect. I believe there should be no
       hatred zone between RG and 3xS really. Since these are the only
       two snipers clans left. I'm in both RG and 3xS because both are
       snipers clans and both are promoting snipers. That's what it
       really comes down to. Fellow sniper should not dispute with
       their fellow snipers.. That simply doesn't make any sense.
       Regardless, I will continue to be very observant of mhers. And
       unless we get true, substantial evidence such as replays, no one
       should be alleged a mher. "Innocent till proven guilty" right?
       This is the only video game I play, and I truly love it. That's
       why I took my time out to post this comment. :)
       -Bungie
       #Post#: 227--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The History of Snipers [COMPLETE]
       By: Tom Date: February 10, 2013, 8:34 am
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       Thanks Bungie. I completely agree, and am trying to bridge the
       gap that has formed over the years between East and Europe. I
       don't know if we'll ever change the other's mindsets completely
       about the other, but it's worth a shot.
       About me hacking back when I did: I mean no disrespect when I
       say this, but I have never answered to anyone, so to call it an
       "excuse" is not the best word choice. I do not answer to anyone
       now either, but there is a huge difference between hacking in
       today's Snipers and back when I did. It is certainly inherently
       wrong to cheat, but we were all just kids trying to be the best
       without fear of consequences. Now that I'm older I see the value
       of this game and I want it to not only stay alive, but thrive.
       So any help you or anyone else can give me in recruiting,
       teaching and mentoring young players would be a huge help. I
       believe that is how this game will continue to grow, and the
       level of competitiveness will continue to rise.
       Again, thanks Bungie.
       #Post#: 428--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The History of Snipers [COMPLETE]
       By: Pablo19 Date: May 7, 2013, 2:52 am
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       a well written report to a well respected individual. Throughout
       my years of snipers there are few who I respect genuinely. I
       played mostly to annoy greats such as
       anima,akino,drewisfat,celestial,rekot and hundreds more that
       pains me to forget them, with my supernatural ability to find
       and eliminate elite tier snipers. I was truly the "anti-bcer"
       sharing that title with Tweed(another great). Though that title
       passed on to those I taught and surpassed us both but that said,
       the categories placed here were professionally done, unbiased
       and emphasized in exact and great detail. Even if it was a
       little harsh to the third gen. Mybrodro my first and greatest
       apprentice of the game was far from arrogant or wanting to be a
       legend. Many like him were humble and decent people who I was
       glad to play with and teach throughout my years on wc3. All who
       never resorted to such things like mhing.
       It was truly a pleasure reading this as it brought back many
       good memories of the friendships/rivals and even enemies that I
       had made.
       It is good to see that the game we all crave for and love is
       still alive and kicking.
       Thank you for gracing us with this priceless art Tom
       your friend
       Pablo19
       #Post#: 429--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The History of Snipers [COMPLETE]
       By: Tom Date: May 7, 2013, 9:52 pm
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       Much appreciated, Pablo, and welcome back! It's a shame more
       oldies don't play, but we work with what we have. Plague has
       done a great job of taking the reigns and keeping Snipers alive
       in my inactivity. I will do my best to be online a LOT more
       starting tomorrow morning. I hope to see you around old friend.
       And who knows, if we stick around long enough, we might just get
       back most of the people we've lost.
       #Post#: 459--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The History of Snipers [COMPLETE]
       By: ChlamydiaStDS Date: May 27, 2013, 12:07 am
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       Wow, having a lot of nostalgia right now. Sometimes I go through
       google and look for old forums and try to find friends that seem
       forever lost.
       I am glad I came across this Tom. It has been a very long time
       since I have talked to you, SeC, Bungie, or Pabs. I am an oldie
       and many considered me one of the best and non-hackers. (Also
       hardly ever pend/bc)
       Having been there for most of the game, it really feels like a
       lot of history is missing. You have the generations down but so
       much happened and so many great players came and went its truly
       indescribable how competitive the game was. The friendships made
       on this game were extremely close, considering that we know each
       other by name and talk randomly on forums after several years.
       :D
       Very inspiring post. I might have to start playing snipers a
       little more often now. I want to give a shout out to Anima,
       Bronz, Squall, Akino, Sec, Baal, Joleen, and so many others who
       made that 20 minute game last a lifetime of good memories.
       And Pabs. I remember when you were new and Mighties. taught you
       to play. Was awesome to see man.
       #Post#: 466--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The History of Snipers [COMPLETE]
       By: Plague Date: May 27, 2013, 7:15 am
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       pablo is still playing and anima is lurking in the darkness
       somewhere, last played about a month ago ^^
       #Post#: 468--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The History of Snipers [COMPLETE]
       By: Tom Date: May 27, 2013, 7:55 am
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       Welcome back, Matt. You're right, a lot is missing. This history
       is just the general history of the game of Snipers itself,
       meaning it lacks great detail. In a day or 2 I will have posted
       the more recent European history which will include much more
       detail. To remember and successfully describe all the
       experiences we went through over the years would take a lot more
       time and paper than I have available, if you catch my drift. I
       believe most of that history should and will remain in our
       minds. My goal is to record the players and the history from
       THIS point forward, so that we can remember every detail in full
       accuracy. Thanks for the comment.
       #Post#: 470--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The History of Snipers [COMPLETE]
       By: Whirlwind[Sand] Date: May 27, 2013, 8:38 am
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       While you guys were busy sniping on Europe, we had a Snipers
       Remix scene on TFT Europe too. Obviously not as big.
       I recorded Remix clans I knew of from 2004 to 2007 apart from
       Sand.
       SNIP - Lollig[Snip] 2003-2004 (They actually started with Elite.
       When I came to scene, they started playing Remix)
       ESA - Santa-Bla 2003 (My old clan. lasted only a few months
       because patch 1.13 was too big and i was on dial up -.- so I
       couldn't log on)
       BES - Berserk_Troll 2004 (I was shaman in this one)
       DROW - Acrotas[Drow] 2004
       COS - Dragun[CoS] 2004
       PHAM - DarkSpirit[Pham 2004-2006
       SLOS - PHAM derivative 2005
       USL - NinjaSniper02 2006
       From 2007 onwards, there were a few Elimination Tournament clans
       but I haven't recorded them so I have no idea.
       From 2008 onwards, it was all Warlock, again I don't have much
       knowledge of that era.
       Also a pic of gnome Sand I got from 2007. Not to brag or
       anything. It really was an invite everyone clan who's interested
       in Remix and ET and we would do naughty stuff to other clans
       with that number of active players, like random spamming.
       #Post#: 471--------------------------------------------------
       Re: The History of Snipers [COMPLETE]
       By: RaPeDmAN Date: May 27, 2013, 8:48 am
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       Nice to see an old east face around again.   :)
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