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       #Post#: 294--------------------------------------------------
       Banned Squiggy Wigginz aka me.
       By: Squiggy Wigginz Date: September 20, 2011, 8:32 pm
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       Just got this...and I was about to tag up ~ EgC since I am now a
       clan member when THIS happened....  Well, he told me to "get
       some skills noob hacker"...I attended two CPL's with Riot Squad
       and was rs.squiggy wigginz for both of them. Best we got was 7th
       in the world. I understand how CS is a team sport, and to those
       who have not been playing for 13 years it could seem that a
       better player is infact a cheater, but I infact CAN spot
       cheaters and in my personal opinion feel that admins like this
       one should not exist or be given ban rights, much less PERMANENT
       ban rights. Just a suggestion. Alot of children are "ban-happy".
       I used to run the Cincinnati Road Runner servers back from
       2000-2005 and only permanently EVER banned 1 person. Some would
       get week bans, 24 hour bans or even month long bans, but
       permanent bans are tough to justify with so many great players.
       I'm 41, been playing cs since October of 1999 and am damned good
       and proud of it. I've never cheated in any way shape or form.
       EVER.
       Read everything...I think he was just angry I kept killing him
       as you will notice from the console.
       [HPK] Player el_Miguelaco disconnected due to high ping
       @Squiggy Wigginz killed South Hill Slayer ~ EgC with m4a1
       |s2|BR|LuCaS|BR|<3| dropped
       |s2|BR|LuCaS|BR|<3| has left the game
       @Squiggy Wigginz (RADIO): Fire in the hole!
       [xREDIRECT]: '|s2|BR|LuCaS|BR|<3|' atiranyitott teged ide: Elite
       Gamers Zombie Server - Ird be hogy /follow
       ha te is at akarod
       Add us to your favorite: 67.214.161.213:27015
       *** @Squiggy Wigginz killed Dirtycharley;; with a headshot from
       m4a1 ***
       alexsandro dropped
       el_Miguelaco connected
       <3 beebop ~ EgC killed @Squiggy Wigginz with deagle
       Wendhel has left the game
       BigBl4kd1LD0::WesMantooth killed <3 beebop ~ EgC with m249
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       Ban Information
       Name: @Squiggy Wigginz
       SteamID: STEAM_0:0:922506
       Reason: Get some skilss noob hacker...GTFO
       Unban Time: Permanent Ban
       Admin Name: South Hill Slayer ~ EgC
       Admin SteamID: STEAM_0:0:1698146989
       
       If you think you were banned unfairly, report this information
       to our website:
       <http
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       * Megolt <3 beebop ~ EgC,  deagle-el 16.meterrol (100hp, 100ap)
       >> balkar: 1
       el_Miguelaco is joining the Terrorist force
       Kicked by Console: "You are banned from this server. Check your
       console"
       Kicked :"You are banned from this server. C
       #Post#: 295--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Banned Squiggy Wigginz aka me.
       By: Squiggy Wigginz Date: September 20, 2011, 8:33 pm
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       There were several admins on including beebop and IRL, weak...
       my steam id is STEAM_0:0:922506
       I would be VERY HAPPY to record a demo and post it or send it in
       or please check my screenshots I have on my steam profile which
       is "@Squiggy Wigginz"
       I do NOT cheat. Never have, never will. Get over the fact there
       are people better than you.
       #Post#: 296--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Banned Squiggy Wigginz aka me.
       By: Squiggy Wigginz Date: September 20, 2011, 8:35 pm
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       Not to be mean, but this admins steam id is so long that I don't
       think he would know a hacker from a good player anyway. Doesn't
       seem like he's been playing very long with a 10 digit steam id.
       My main steam id is actually considerably lower than my pub
       steam id which is 6 digits. I however have all my "games" on my
       higher 6 digit account...to me this is just ban happy kids.
       Admin Name: South Hill Slayer ~ EgC
       Admin SteamID: STEAM_0:0:1698146989
       #Post#: 298--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Banned Squiggy Wigginz aka me.
       By: Spoon Date: September 20, 2011, 9:06 pm
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       [quote author=AvatarMarz~EgC link=topic=98.msg297#msg297
       date=1316569831]
       i trust in you,
       im unbanning u
       [/quote]
       WTF
       he didn't even upload a demo or screen shot yet
       #Post#: 299--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Banned Squiggy Wigginz aka me.
       By: Spoon Date: September 20, 2011, 9:07 pm
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       STOP FREAKING LOCKING TOPIC AVATAR!!
       south needs to explain his reason or gives a prove if squiggy
       hack
       [quote author=Squiggy Wigginz link=topic=98.msg296#msg296
       date=1316568945]
       Doesn't seem like he's been playing very long with a 10 digit
       steam id.
       [/quote]
       south made a new steam id but his original steam id has 8 digits
       (just letting you guys know)
       #Post#: 300--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Banned Squiggy Wigginz aka me.
       By: Squiggy Wigginz Date: September 20, 2011, 9:16 pm
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       Well he won't have "proof" that I'm cheating because I don't
       cheat. I however would be more than happy, ANYTIME, to record of
       demo of me going 40-7 on any map which is about my average. I'm
       41. I have a mortgage, a fiance, a dog and a cat and a life. I
       fly radio controlled helicopters, play guitar and more. Check
       out my youtube channel if you want to see me fly some heli's in
       first person view.  :)
  HTML http://www.youtube.com/user/mentalteleprosy
       is my youtube
       channel.
       I also have several websites in the works like
       www.helipalooza.com and www.linkofawesome.com which should be
       cool, but it takes alot of time. I am in sales here in
       Cincinnati Ohio and play cs about 10 hours a week if I can even
       find the time between real life duties, guitar, the fiance, and
       RC helicopters.
       Do you have a spot on the site that I can upload demo's so that
       you can post them? Or possibly someone can turn a demo of mine
       into an .AVI video? Would make a great movie/promotion for EgC.
       I'm not half as good as I was back in the day when I played for
       real. But I'm also way less paranoid now (joke!) and can finally
       enjoy counter-strike without feeling like you let your team down
       if you lose a round. My name is also "pwn" on ESEA for anyone
       who might ever ESEA.
       #Post#: 303--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Banned Squiggy Wigginz aka me.
       By: King Snuw Date: September 20, 2011, 9:53 pm
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       I would advice that all admins are to record a demo when banning
       hackers, it doesn't have to be a 10 minutes long demo. It could
       just be a 1 to 5 minutes of demo, so that when someone post a
       ban appeal, you could have a solid evidence to prove your case.
       Thanks,
       SenseOfTouch.
       P.S. : South if you do have a demo you could post it, if you
       didn't record a demo, just let this case pass. I'm not trying to
       put anyone in a bad position, but if you do not have a demo I
       don't think you would be able to prove anything when someone
       post a ban appeal.
       #Post#: 304--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Banned Squiggy Wigginz aka me.
       By: Squiggy Wigginz Date: September 21, 2011, 9:41 am
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       Just so you know Sense of Touch, someone else's demo won't prove
       anything about someone else cheating. It has to be FROM THE
       PERSON ACCUSED.
       You should have all admins request the person accused to start
       recording a demo once they are accused then send it in to a
       centralized location (here if possible). All admins should know
       and bind the text for the link so they can say "Please <accused
       name> begin recording a 5 minute demo now" then have another
       bind that states, "After you are finished, log out then upload
       the demo to:
  HTML http://website.name.com/areaitgoesin/etc"
       
       Just a suggestion. A third party demo does not show hacks, it
       only shows the person recording it's perspective.
       #Post#: 312--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Banned Squiggy Wigginz aka me.
       By: blangpataclow Date: September 22, 2011, 2:03 pm
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       just so you know, I was there I felt a little surprised when he
       banned you and didnt say nothing, because, I knew youd report
       this.
       admins may make mistakes, but in my opinion in order to do their
       job properly they must be 100 % positive that one is hacking,
       this is the reason why I always watch people play before and not
       just randomly ban who has killed me hs through wall.
       #Post#: 314--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Banned Squiggy Wigginz aka me.
       By: South Hill Slayer Date: September 23, 2011, 3:38 pm
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       [quote author=SenseOfTouch link=topic=98.msg303#msg303
       date=1316573610]
       I would advice that all admins are to record a demo when banning
       hackers, it doesn't have to be a 10 minutes long demo. It could
       just be a 1 to 5 minutes of demo, so that when someone post a
       ban appeal, you could have a solid evidence to prove your case.
       Thanks,
       SenseOfTouch.
       P.S. : South if you do have a demo you could post it, if you
       didn't record a demo, just let this case pass. I'm not trying to
       put anyone in a bad position, but if you do not have a demo I
       don't think you would be able to prove anything when someone
       post a ban appeal.
       [/quote]
       To Address Several issues:
       Actually we can prove a player is wall hacking based on a demo
       of spectating a player. We have several tools available with the
       server mod, Which make it very,very easy to see who's legit and
       who's not.
       And What you said about the demo having to come from the player
       himself.....Why wouldn't the person hacking just turn off the
       hacks, and record the demo????
       and 3 We both know whats, what........I watched your ridiculous
       shit in Dust_2 when I perma banned you. You where obviously
       running wall hacks, (which I could see plain as day) but go
       ahead deny, deny,deny. Then today on Assault When I go to
       spectate you and record your ass, (after going 4-1 your first
       round) you obviously toggled your hacks off. Its not hard to
       tell when someone who is supposed to be Mr.
       Professional-Get-Paid-to-play-CS-CPL-ALL-STAR is looking away
       from where enemy's probably are, not typing anything, not
       talking, not buying, just looking away to toggel your shit off,
       because, Guess why? I went to spectate him....Simply amazing and
       you go on to kill no one.........hmmmmmmmmmmm I
       WONDER...........O YEAH and make sure to not say anything to
       me......Just go Spectator because you know your going to get
       fucking owned if you cant turn them on. Do you think I'm stupid
       or are  YOU? I don't quite understand why you would go spectator
       instead of showing off those ubber-1337 skills to me and the
       rest of the server....Proving your not a hacker........But guess
       what, you cant play without your crutch.....LOL How truly
       pathetic, right up there with the min-biography of your life.
       AND FINALLY
       what does my steam id have to do with anything? I have an eight
       digit steam id? So what? Because you downloaded steam before I
       did? Great job man!!!! I'm sure that's a constantly brought up,
       high point in your life>>>>LOL Quite the Deduction there, are
       you some kind of network forensic's specialist? Cause your IT
       skills are just TOP NOTCH! Have you ever heard of NON-STEAM
       Counter strike? There's alot of free software online.
       "South Hill Slayer ~ EgC" 21086 STEAM_0:1:35802240   0 00:55   9
       13 years????     How do you play a game for longer than its even
       been out? Just wondering? Im sure in your mind you co-created it
       huh? playing since 1998? Because I don't even remember Half-life
       Counter-Strike until early 2000. That's right yeah you where a
       beta tester for Valve....... before counter-strike.net even
       existed......RIGHT.........
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