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       #Post#: 1622--------------------------------------------------
       Bill Smith's New Yard Sign
   DIR By: Michael Caswell
       Date: July 17, 2021, 2:33 am
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       I guess some people don't know when to quit.
       When all the evidence from numerous government bodies proves
       beyond a doubt, that trees do not belong on a dam, yet the
       Pittsford Town Supervisor continues with his lost cause, one has
       to wonder at the sanity of the man.
       He's certainly not working in the best interests of the
       residents of Pittsford, who are in great danger from the
       dilapidated condition of the canal embankment dam.
       Risk Category II - High Urgency rating   by
       RIZZO-ENGINEERING.COM    - THAT WAS FOUR YEARS AGO, AND NOTHING
       HAS BEEN DONE! - thanks to Mr Smith & the STCC!
       See
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  HTML https://eriecanalfacts.wordpress.com/2018/04/15/rizzo-report-on-state-of-dam/
       Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) Risk Category II -
       High Urgency rating.
       Recommendation =
       a) Trained Section staff should perform inspections of this
       embankment section at least every two months during the
       navigation season. Prioritize this section for enhanced
       attention under the Bank Walker Program.
       b) Remove vegetation from overgrown areas on the embankment and
       at toe and establish appropriate ground cover vegetation.
       c) Evaluate potential remediation plans to deal with the
       on-going undercutting and erosion caused by the stream at toe.
       d) Implement remediation plans including restoring the
       embankment at the wash out areas.
       I guess Mr. Smith hung his hat on this STCC dead horse, and will
       lose face if he quits now? Doesn't he realise he only has to
       say, "Sorry, I was wrong!"
       [size=12pt]Here's the STCC Facebook post -
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       #Post#: 1623--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bill Smith's New Yard Sign
   DIR By: Doug K
       Date: July 17, 2021, 7:15 am
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       Hopefully Bill and others, are checking with their local
       Government eCodes, to insure they aren't breaking any local laws
       or code, regarding gaudy, red-lettered signs offending their
       neighbor's  intelligence, and displaying the Facebook group's
       continued ignorance of public safety along the Erie Canal
       Pittsford:
  HTML https://ecode360.com/6437086
       § 185-139 Temporary signs.
       A. Purpose. The purpose of this section is to provide standards
       for the regulation of the location and appearance of temporary
       signs in order to:
       (1) Protect property values and neighborhood character;
       (2) Protect public and private investment in buildings and open
       spaces;
       (3) Provide information to the public;
       (4) Reduce hazards to motorists and pedestrians; and
       (5) Protect the public health, safety and general welfare
       Perinton:
  HTML https://ecode360.com/6740311
       § 174-11 Permit required.
       [Amended 8-9-1989 by L.L. No. 3-1989; 2-24-2010 by L.L. No.
       1-2010; 12-18-2019 by L.L. No. 2-2020]
       After the effective date of this chapter and except as otherwise
       herein provided, no person shall erect any sign as defined
       herein without first obtaining a permit from the Director of
       Building and Codes
       Fairport:
  HTML https://ecode360.com/10644641#10644641
       § 408-3 Sign permit required.
       A. Permit required. All signs shall require a permit issued by
       the Code Enforcement Officer. Only those signs listed in this
       chapter shall be allowed in the Village of Fairport.
       B. Application. Application for a sign permit shall be made on a
       form provided by the Code Enforcement Officer and shall include
       such information as required by the Code Enforcement Officer.
       The Code Enforcement Officer shall publish regulations governing
       the information and documentation that shall be required to be
       submitted as part of a sign permit application
       More on Local Sign Codes
       And in just about EVERY local Town & Village there is a TIME
       LIMIT on how long any "temporary" sign can be displayed, along
       with a requirement to get local government  approval, via a Sign
       Application process.
       So, hopefully the NEIGHBORS of these "fine citizens who want to
       post signs", will insure their own Local Law rights, that
       protect them from NOT HAVE TO LOOK at these gaudy Red Lettered
       Signs,.
       They can do that by insuring those who put them up, do it
       "legally", according to the local Town & Village Building Codes
       found in eCode360 online.
       Read the local law, protect YOUR rights as a homeowner or
       resident to insure YOU don't fall VICTIM to a group of
       "sign-posting" pseudo-environmentalist who are making Village &
       Town life almost unbearable.
       If you do become a "neighbor" to an unwanted sign like this, you
       need to only call or contact your local Town ort Village offices
       and tell them that you believe your "neighbor" has erected a
       sign, illegally, and not compliant with local code.
       Your Code Enforcement Official WILL come out to look, and if
       needed, write up the homeowner who placed the sign, telling them
       what code statute was NOT followed. And most likely there will
       be a Sign "law" that was missed, especially by groups like this,
       who seem to think they can "make up their own rules".
       There are Sign Regulation that require a permit, and sign
       content must meet local code, sign placement is also in the
       local codes as well sign design or COLORING used. Even
       "political" signs have codes related to them on when they can go
       up, and when they have to be taken down, and the STCC is
       politically motivated perhaps...for Bill Smith.
       The list of "sign regulations" is usually a bit long, and also
       many signs, those that are considered "temporary" have a shelf
       life for display, and MUST be taken down in a prescribed time
       frame, that started with obtaining a Sign Permit.
       So it's fairly easy to get "obtrusive" signs taken down, and
       also those that are "directly opposing public safety" or that
       detract from the properties near it in those neighborhoods.
       Time to "stamp out" the blight that has affected many eastside
       residents, time to see that the Stop the Canal Clear-cut group
       learns the "hard lessons" about Dam Safety in upstate NY
       Communities.
       Protect YOUR rights... before groups like the Stop the Canal
       Clear-cut simply "trample then underfoot", placing their
       RED-LETTERED signs all over Town.
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       #Post#: 1625--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Bill Smith's New Yard Sign
   DIR By: Michael Caswell
       Date: July 17, 2021, 8:53 am
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       You'd have thought Bill Smith would have realised this
       infraction and put a stop to it.  Maybe he's too worried about
       some ol' Cottonwoods?
       Or maybe he's just worried about losing a few "voters" and his
       job.
       Like most politicians who support issues that aren't in the best
       interest of ALL residents they serve.
       It's called pandering for votes
       #Post#: 1626--------------------------------------------------
       New 'Stealth Member' of the STCC. Who is she?
   DIR By: Michael Caswell
       Date: July 18, 2021, 5:20 am
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       According to Ms Agte, the STCC has a new member, labeled by her
       as her 'Stealth Member'.
       Now, I'm not too sure what that means exactly, but I'm pretty
       sure this lady is not as nefarious as this title sounds. She's
       Karen Anvelt,  & according to a quick Google search and to
       LinkedIn, she comes up as an administrator for the U of R, and
       she lives at #1 Forestwood Lane in Pittsford.
       I checked Google Maps, and this property is adjacent to The
       Great Embankment Dam of Marsh Road, and also adjacent to
       Irondequoit Creek, which happens to run UNDER Marsh Rd. I've
       been to the Great Embankment Park a couple of times, to look at
       this structure, but not to see the culvert.
       Ms Anvelt has made some signs for members of the STCC to place
       on their property, proclaiming 'Save The Trees'. Yet her
       situation is, to say the least, at greater risk than most who
       live on the 'wrong' side of a canal embankment dam.
       Yesterday was the second day of a torrential downpour, so it was
       no surprise to see Irondequoit Creek in full flood, and quite
       noisy, as I stood on the edge of the road looking into the
       creek. Pretty scary to see that much water coming under the road
       from the culvert which flows UNDER the road and the canal.
       [attachimg=1]
       I was about to leave, then noticed a trail leading up into the
       woods that adorn the Great Embankment. Looking up this well
       trodden trail, I could just see the top, and estimate the height
       from the road to be some 70-80 feet. It was still raining
       heavily, but I wanted to look at the crest, so started my climb.
       The trail was very muddy, with many pebbles exposed, making the
       journey quite treacherous, so after getting about half way up, I
       decided to abort the mission, before I slipped and slithered
       into the road. I had a job to stay upright because of the
       steepness of the trail.
       [attachimg=2]
       This photo doesn't quite capture the steepness of the slope, but
       it is certainly more than 45 degrees, more likely 60.
       Recommended ratio of base line to height of dams are at minimum
       2:1, preferably 3:1 - this is less than 1:1 I think.
       The trees cover is very dense, as seen here, note the power
       lines, which give perspective to the height.
       [attachimg=3]
       Here is what struck me about this situation.
       1. We have a large culvert with a tremendous volume of water
       2. The culvert, like most Canal Corp 'assets' has likely been
       badly maintained.
       3. The creek runs UNDER the canal, AND Marsh Road.
       4. Properties in Forestwood Lane are well below the level of the
       road.
       5. There are large downed  trees everywhere on the canal
       embankment slopes.
       6. The standing trees, mainly Cottonwoods, are about 100 feet
       tall.
       7. Brush and scrub is growing everywhere.
       8. It would be impossible to carry out a detailed inspection of
       the embankment.
       9. How would the NYPA rectify the design error of these steep
       slopes? I doubt they could construct a toe drain to alter the
       Phreatic Line without digging into Marsh Rd.
       10. Would they alter the Phreatic Line by installing Sheet
       Piling as they did at The Oxbow?
       There are a number of serious problems here. If this culvert
       were to be damaged in any way, say the retaining walls at the
       outlet were compromised and washed out etc. Would that be the
       start of the dam breach? The canal would empty into the creek
       and completely flood the area of Marsh Rd and all its adjoins
       streets.
       I wonder if the residents of this area are aware of the imminent
       dangers they are in? Obviously some of them are not, and are
       having signs made saying "Save The Trees"
       Over the next few days, the entire Great Embankment could become
       super saturated and of great concern if a few of these trees
       were blown over. It's nowhere I'd want to be right now.
       #Post#: 1630--------------------------------------------------
       Re: New 'Stealth Member' of the STCC. Is she in Danger?
   DIR By: Doug K
       Date: July 18, 2021, 3:12 pm
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       Mike looked up credentials for Ms. Anvelt, and her property, and
       I looked up FEMA Flood Maps. Surprisingly she is just outside
       the Flood Zone at the base of the Great Embankment where
       Irondequoit creek runs under it. And it also gave a chance to
       share some information on this huge embankment in Pittsford...
       one that should be cleared immediately.
       Here's the FEMA information.
       [attachimg=1]
  HTML https://msc.fema.gov/portal/search?
       And we can view the streets as well. Note that I also have added
       a picture of this SAME AREA from 2013, when the Barge Canal was
       starting to replace the original Erie Canal.
       [attachimg=2]
  HTML https://www.eriecanal.org/images.html
       But the BEST photo, for those who simply "can't see the
       Embankment Dam" because all those Dam Trees are in the way,
       here's what the Great Embankment looked like, 5 years before
       it's "grand opening", circa 1921. Note the SIZE of the mountain
       across from Ms. Anvelt's home. And the FACT it has not a tree on
       it... that is what the Great Embankment was "supposed to look
       like: Because it's an EARTHEN DAM... not a 'pretty forest' that
       leads up to the Canal.
       [attachimg=3]
  HTML https://www.eriecanal.org/images.html
       I would also put the word out to Ms. Anvelt, and all who live
       below this Earthen Canal Embankment; let the owners of the NYS
       Erie Canal FIX their SAFETY problem with the RAISED Canal
       Section in your neighborhood. They have said it's an "accident
       waiting to happen", you all should listen.
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