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Just a reminder about how important immigrants are to America
& Democracy
DIR By: Doug K
Date: January 8, 2024, 5:51 pm
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I really didn't want to be the one to state the obvious... but
in today's divided society maybe this thought has been
forgotten:
The United States of America is a country governed by the "rule
of law", meaning no one is above the law, it applies to all
equally. And the guiding charter for our nation is called The
Constitution of the United States, it has the basic rules & laws
that we are supposed to live by. There are many laws, many
rules, and most revolve around elements in this document we know
at The Constitution.
By the way, that same Constitution is supposed to work no matter
how "un-united" we might become in America... and that's what
has some people worried.
And if you have noticed the trend lately, the major news sources
are all talking about what might disqualify someone from
becoming the LEADER of this great Nation, that is what might
make someone INELIGIBLE to enter that political race for POTUS.
And it all rests on the definition of a few words, insurrection,
conspiracy & sedition.
And even more importantly, what United States Laws are being
cited, because there are two different sets of laws that deal
with "crimes against the country".
Most of the press is talking about the 14th Ammendment, it's
focus is on politicians that act to promote rebellion or
insurrection. It reads like this:
No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or
elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office,
civil or military, under the United States, or under any State,
who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress,
or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any
State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any
State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall
have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or
given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by
a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.
HTML https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/amendment-14/section-3/
Of course there is also US Code, specifically Title 18 which
covers CRIMES AND CRIMINAL PROCEDURE, and Chapter 115 is focused
on TREASON, SEDITION, AND SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES. The law is
similar to the Constitutional Amendment but isn't focused on
politicians or holding office.
The US Code is for ALL CITIZENS and covers the LAW, and
penalties for breaking the laws in Title 18, Chapter 115.
Section 2383 which covers rebellion & Insurrection.
It reads as follows:
§2383. Rebellion or insurrection: Whoever incites, sets on
foot, assists, or engages in any rebellion or insurrection
against the authority of the United States or the laws thereof,
or gives aid or comfort thereto, shall be fined under this title
or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and shall be
incapable of holding any office under the United States.
HTML https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?req=granuleid:USC-1999-title18-section2383&num=0&edition=1999
So regardless of what some ex-president may be saying, or what
some on the right or left may think... the law is pretty clear
on this, please read it again;
Whoever INCITES, SETS ON FOOT, ASSISTS, OR ENGAGES in any
rebellion, against the authority of the USA or it's LAWS, can be
fined, imprisoned and oh yes... DISQUALIFIED from holding ANY
office under the United States. It's just a matter of time
folks, justice will be served, and we all may just see the first
ex-president EVER to be charged with this serious crime,
hopefully people are smart enough to learn from history and not
elect him again.
And who do we have to THANK for that, what group of people came
up with these ideals, these laws that run our Country?
It's IMMIGRANTS!
Yes... every single signer of the Declaration of Independence,
and everyone who worked hard in that first Continental Congress
to create the Constitution of the United States, was an
Immigrant, the child of an immigrant, or maybe even the
grandchild of one of this nation's first immigrants, the
Pilgrims. This is a fact, not debatable. We ARE an entire
country that owes its existence and good fortune to IMMIGRANTS,
and migrants, and refugees.
In their infinite wisdom these earliest immigrants who formed
our nation, tried to insure that future immigrants (or their
children) should not forget lessons learned in the journey to
become an independent, democratically-run nation, that follows
the Rule of Law.
Just a question, who was it that told an angry mob, who wanted
to disregard the "authority of the United States" to go to
Congress on January 6, 2021?
Go look at the videos of what most are calling Insurrection
Day... and remember, No one is above the law in this country we
call America.
#Post#: 2520--------------------------------------------------
Re: Just a reminder about how important immigrants are to
America & Democracy
DIR By: Doug K
Date: January 8, 2024, 5:58 pm
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More TRUTH about Immigrants and how their decision to leave
their native country and try a new life in the United States of
America
HTML https://www.history.com/news/donald-trump-father-mother-ancestry
On October 7, 1885, Friedrich Trump, a 16-year-old German
barber, bought a one-way ticket for America, escaping three
years of compulsory German military service. He had been a
sickly child, unsuited to hard labor, and feared the effects of
the draft.
It might have been illegal, but America didn’t care about this
law-breaking—at that time, Germans were seen as highly desirable
migrants—and Trump was welcomed with open arms. Less than two
weeks later, he arrived in New York, where he would eventually
make a small fortune.
More than a century later, his grandson, Donald Trump, became
the 45th president.
Donald Trump is the son, and grandson, of immigrants: German on
his father’s side, and Scottish on his mother’s. None of his
grandparents, and only one of his parents, was born in the
United States or spoke English as their mother tongue. For
decades, Trump denied this German heritage.
#Post#: 2521--------------------------------------------------
Re: Just a reminder about how important immigrants are to
America & Democracy
DIR By: Michael Caswell
Date: January 8, 2024, 7:14 pm
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"German on his father’s side, and Scottish on his mother’s. None
of his grandparents, and only one of his parents, was born in
the United States or spoke English as their mother tongue. For
decades, Trump denied this German heritage"
AND that is why this piece of crap is one of the most useless
articles on this planet
HTML https://truthsocial.com/@realDon.../posts/111703421569603715
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Re: Just a reminder about how important immigrants are to
America & Democracy
DIR By: Michael Caswell
Date: January 8, 2024, 7:31 pm
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I am an immigrant! Tired of banging my head against 'the
establishment' of the so called 'aristocracy' in England. A
bunch of privileged people with dubious genetic heritage. Mainly
crooks and pompous hangers on to the current thieving
'royalists'.
I left England with a wonderful wife, two sons, 5 suitcases, and
$4000 because I was sick to death of their nonsense.
I am SO GRATEFUL and honored to have become a USA citizen, and
my businesses have made my family very successful. I could not
have done that anywhere else.
We have helped start hundreds of small businesses doing plating
and metal finishing. Our Caswell name is famous -just Google
"electroplating kits" to prove my point.
It's a wonderful country, is the USA. BUT! Donald Trump has no
idea!
This dullard could ruin everything that my family has worked so
hard for.
HTML https://truthsocial.com/@realDon.../posts/111703421569603715
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Re: Just a reminder about how important immigrants are to
America & Democracy
DIR By: Doug K
Date: January 8, 2024, 7:47 pm
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I believe the term another "world leader" already pinned on Mr
Trump was "dotard"... someone whose age has impaired his
intellect.
Sadly for Mr Trump, the intellect that was "impaired" wasn't
much different than your typical 8th grade "bully" who's always
stealing other kids' lunches.
And folks, you wouldn't be reading any of this great ECNA
entertainment if it wasn't for an immigrant... thank you Mr.
Caswell for giving our country a go...
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Re: Just a reminder about how important immigrants are to
America & Democracy
DIR By: Michael Caswell
Date: January 8, 2024, 9:45 pm
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thank you Mr. Caswell for giving our country a go...
Thank you Sir! From one immigrant family to another. Let's not
forget all the other Europeans who stole this wonderful land
from the indigenous tribes in the first place, and the Africans
who were brought here in chains. It's all perspective.
At least I came here in a 747, hard to walk in from England!
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Re: Just a reminder about how important immigrants are to
America & Democracy
DIR By: Doug K
Date: January 9, 2024, 11:51 am
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Of course some may argue that ex-POTUS Trump hasn't been
convicted of insurrection (yet) and neither have any of the 1200
people who stormed the capital been charged with that crime. But
some of those 1200 Americans, who tried to assist Mr Trump in
his little rebellion against being called a "loser", have been
charged with serious charges including Seditious Conspiracy.
That crime is covered in this law:
18 U.S.C. § 2384 - U.S. Code - Unannotated Title 18. Crimes and
Criminal Procedure § 2384. Seditious conspiracy
If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any
place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire
to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of
the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by
force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or
delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force
to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States
contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined
under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or
both.
HTML https://codes.findlaw.com/us/title-18-crimes-and-criminal-procedure/18-usc-sect-2384/
And one person charged with that crime had direct contact with
those in the circle of Donald Trump, and also said he was there
at the urging of his president...hmm.
"We are going to the Capital" were the words Mr. Donald
"Election Loser" Trump spoke on January 6th, and he knew this
man and his legion of conspiracy believers would follow through,
Trump's friend Roger Stone had met with him just a few days
prior.
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HTML https://www.politico.com/news/2023/04/25/proud-boys-trial-trump-tarrio-00093678
This what his lawyers said at his trial for Seditious
Conspiracy:
Former Proud Boys national chair Enrique Tarrio — the man
prosecutors have portrayed as the ringleader of the Jan. 6
attack on the Capitol — told jurors Tuesday that he’s merely a
scapegoat for the real culprit: Donald Trump.“It was Donald
Trump’s words. It was his motivation. It was his anger that
caused what occurred on January 6th in your amazing and
beautiful city,” said Nayib Hassan, Tarrio’s lawyer, during
closing arguments in a seditious conspiracy trial stemming from
the Jan. 6 attack.
Or how about this guy, he also claimed to be answering the call
from "his president" who had lost the election, and who's BIG
LIE about election fraud was refuted.
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HTML https://time.com/6133336/jan-6-capitol-riot-arrests-sentences/
I wonder if it's legal for a President of the United States, to
run the country, while serving time in prison? It would be
interesting to see " the big house" become The White House, if
you think Mar-a-Lago was a mess, wait until we see how many
documents show up with Trump's "prison pals".
Maybe someone should be looking this up in The Constitution,
BEFORE it happens.
#Post#: 2526--------------------------------------------------
Re: Just a reminder about how important immigrants are to
America & Democracy
DIR By: Michael Caswell
Date: January 11, 2024, 4:48 pm
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Maybe wheel clamps should be placed on The Orange's 747, just in
case it gets a bit hot for him and he tries to 'hop it' to
Moscow.
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