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NEW Empire Trail Integrity Program is alive & well in
Pittsford & Perinton
DIR By: Doug K
Date: June 29, 2023, 9:41 am
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ETIP - Is it a new acronym we will see soon from the New York
State Canal Corporation?
ETIP = Empire Trail Integrity Program - The work involved
keeping the ECT operational, safe and sustainable for NYS Canal
System Users.
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HTML https://www.facebook.com/nycanals/?ref=stream
If you read the notice from Facebook, from the NYS Canal
Corporation it appears that while this work is NOT part of their
Earthen Embankment Integrity Program (EEIP), it sure is a "close
cousin". That EEIP work is centered around the REMOVAL of all
invasive vegetation from the inner and outer embankment slopes
of the Canal Waterway, and this NEW work is not removal... it's
"trimming" or that's what stated.
How much trimming this ETIP program will perform is yet to be
seen...but it could be that this is the 'precursor' needed for
future work along the Canal Corridor that lays the foundation
for those Embankment Integrity efforts.
Just how high, or how far back should unsafe trees be trimmed,
along an active NYS Public Trail?
I would guess far enough away so that NO LIMBS can fall on a
Trail User, and the tree limbs should be cut HIGH enough so they
DO NOT POSE a danger to the integrity of the trail, trail users
or the embankment they are growing from... wouldn't that make
sense?
And in some cases a 'danger tree' should be removed, for public
safety, and safety of NYPA employees.
HTML https://www.dec.ny.gov/lands/5276.html
I have a feeling that some people in Perinton, Pittsford &
Fairport will be "up in arms" about this and a group of Facebook
"warriors" will be blasting the Canal Corporation and NYPA for
yet another "big conspiracy" on a certain Facebook Page.
Anyone want to disagree with that last statement?
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Re: NEW Empire Trail Integrity Program is creating havoc in the
STCC
DIR By: Doug K
Date: June 30, 2023, 5:57 pm
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As expected, this Facebook group is a predictable as death &
taxes, and once again it's that member "Karen" who's up in
arms... her husband's favorite raspberry bush is gone.
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They could have looked at the Canal Corporation FB page, to get
this information, instead they chose to pester Bill Smith, who's
still saying the EEIP program is "stopped"... lol
Let's call that "wishful thinking" Bill, the SEQR came back, the
NYSCC has proven their case and NYS DEC agrees, dangerous Dams
need trees removed... PERIOD!
And yes... the call has gone out... Tree Huggers Unite
I hope these people know that each tree they decide to hug may
just cost them $100 in fines, according to the NYS Canal Law.
It's unlawful to leave the TRAIL!
#Post#: 2465--------------------------------------------------
Re: NEW Empire Trail Integrity Program is alive & well in
Pittsford & Perinton
DIR By: Michael Caswell
Date: July 2, 2023, 6:58 am
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Folks. Karen Anvelt lives in what I consider to be a very
dangerous situation, right under the dam, where a culvert flows
UNDER the canal. I saw this culvert in full flow as it raged
past her house. The dam is extremely steep and has huge trees
growing on it. I'd be scared silly living there, but I guess if
common sense is a little lacking, one could simply ignore the
danger.
Unbelievable.
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Re: NEW Empire Trail Integrity Program is alive & well in
Pittsford & Perinton
DIR By: Doug K
Date: July 4, 2023, 10:58 am
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Mike...you said Common Sense is a little lacking? A little???
Any sense is lacking from most members in this Facebook group;
common, logical, or any other type. Half the group starts the
conspiracy theories, the other half swallows it all, hook, line
& sinker.
If you look up the word 'senseless' in the dictionary it says -
SEE: Stop the Canal Clear-cut".
I'm sure that we haven't heard the end of the NYPA Tree Trimming
issue. The group hasn't used the words; destruction,
devastation, and horrible yet.
That's always the way the STCC group describes what most people
understand to be simply routine tree maintenance.
And the group's "Karen" still hasn't whined nearly enough about
"her husband's" raspberry bush that happens to be growing on a
NYS-owned Embankment Dam.
And an unsafe dam at that... Go Figure.
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Re: NEW Empire Trail Integrity Program is alive & well in
Pittsford & Perinton
DIR By: Michael Caswell
Date: July 5, 2023, 12:46 pm
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Favorite 'raspberry bush' cut down? Where have I heard THAT
before? Ummmm!
Oh! Yes, none other than Eerie Agte back in the day when we just
had a permit from the CC to clean up the Oxbow. She moaned that
her favorite raspberry bush had been cut down.
We mowed the weed down, and boy did they **** and moan about it.
the Calias, LJ Fisher & partner Ms Oren, and of course, Eerie
Lizzie and her partner Harvey Gross. The called themselves The
Oxbow Forum or some such. Did they ever go on about it.
Thankfully, the CC didn't take too much notice, but the monster
was born here.
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Re: NEW Empire Trail Integrity Program is alive & well in
Pittsford & Perinton
DIR By: Doug K
Date: July 5, 2023, 12:57 pm
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This is a copy of a letter, sent to town leaders like "Wishful
Bill Smith", and all other communities east of Rochester,
sometime in November of last year.
Re: Earthen Embankment Integrity Program (EEIP)
Notice of Release of Final Generic Environmental Impact
Statement (FGEIS) and Final Embankment Guide Book (Guide Book)
The New York State Canal Corporation (NYSCC), as Lead Agency,
has completed the Final Generic Environmental Impact Statement
document for the proposed Barge Canal Earthen Embankment
Integrity Program. This notice is issued pursuant to Part 617 of
the implementing regulations pertaining to Article 8 (State
Environmental Review Act) of the Environmental Conservation Law.
The NYSCC is also releasing a Final Embankment Maintenance Guide
Book, which is its primary governance document for
implementation of the EEIP. The FGEIS and Final Guide Book
documents, including redline versions illustrating changes from
the draft documents and responses to comments, are available for
download on November 30, 2022, at
HTML https://www.nyscanalintegrity.org
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The purpose of the EEIP is to implement a documented
comprehensive Canal System embankment inspection and maintenance
program to restore, maintain, and manage the integrity of
embankments within the Canal System. Specifically, the scope
includes all embankment material and impairments, along with
turf, vegetation, armoring or paving that is parallel to the
embankment slopes and surfaces from outside the toe of the
outboard slope of the canal or feeder to the toe of the inboard
embankment slope. It includes water recording and management
features used in regulation of water levels in the canal and
feeders, and geotechnical instrumentation devices. It also
includes design and implementation of certain alternative
solutions to vegetation removal, as well as amenities such as
supplemental compatible vegetation.
The Generic EIS provided analyses regarding the potential for
impact from EEIP activities on Land, Geologic Features and
National Natural Landmarks, Surface Waters and Wetlands,
Groundwater, Floodplains, Ecology (Plants and Animals),
Agricultural Resources, Aesthetic Resources, Historic and
Archaeological Resources, Open Space and Recreational Resources,
Transportation Resources, Noise, Odor, Light, Human Heath,
Community Plans, and Community Character. Potential significant
impacts were identified, and avoidance, minimization and
mitigation of these impacts were presented for those impacts.
Individual EEIP segments would be screened, and those that would
cause significant environmental impacts would be mitigated. Any
individual EEIP segments that could not be mitigated would
require a supplemental SEQR review or a separate SEQR review.
Please feel free to share this information, including the FGEIS
and Final Guide Book documents, with your community. If you
require additional information regarding the Final Guide Book or
FGEIS, please call me at (518) 433-6841.
Sincerely yours,
James Candiloro, PE
Director, Environment, Health & Safety
It will be very hard for any of the civic leaders to cry
"ignorance" of the Erie Canal System's public safety issues
going forward.
Warnings have been made in the SEQR Impact Statement, regarding
the unsafe earthen canal embankments. The general public and
local communities can continue to ignore the information and
warnings, but they do so at their own risk, NYS has been very
clear, and can't be held accountable for the stupidity of the
public, or those who say they are "working in the public’s best
interest.
Read more about how Pittsford's Town Supervisor has been
twisting the truth about Erie Canal Embankment Dams
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