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#Post#: 2275--------------------------------------------------
More Trouble with Erie Canal Embankments and Dead Trees in the
Waterway
DIR By: Doug K
Date: July 13, 2022, 11:46 am
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It seems about this time of year the Erie Canal Notice to
Mariners (NTMs) starts to see a large upswing in reported TREES
floating in the waterway. Maybe due to increased traffic by boat
and kayak, we normally see a dozen or more NTM reports annually,
for " floating debris & TREES in the channel", like this one.
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HTML https://www.canals.ny.gov/wwwapps/tas/notices/index.aspx
In addition look for a new Canal Corporation Press Release
regarding yet ANOTHER Erie Canal Embankment REPAIR that is
needed, out in the Medina area, just west of the City. It's
located in an area with a high concentration of Earthen Dams
along the Erie Canal there.
This latest embankment repair will be the fourth Press Release
this year about seeping earthen embankments, since March, when
the Canal Corporation announced it would be performing routine
inspections along the waterway. They have also made 3 major
repairs to embankments/seeps in other locations east of
Rochester.
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HTML https://www.canals.ny.gov/news/pressrel/index.html
Just an FYI, there were no serious embankment seeps reported in
the area west of Medina, when the Canal Corporation launched
it's new Canal Integrity website and posted the data on Erie
Canal Embankment Locations & Seeps. Using their interactive
mapping tools we can see this is a new LEAK being repaired,
that must have grown worse over time, and now has reached the
point where it must be repaired.
What did the NYS Canal Corporation say again? "We can't inspect
the embankment dams if we can't see them. "So they have cleared
25 miles of them and the inspection has revealed over 200 MORE
LEAKS!
Make the 201...
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HTML https://www.nyscanalintegrity.org/program-and-maps
We are not sure of the exact location of this embankment work,
but expect that to be shared in an upcoming Press Release by NYS
Canals & New York State Power very soon. We were told that this
repair work will not affect Erie Canal Trail traffic at all, so
it may be work on an embankment dam located on the South side of
the waterway west of Medina.
We will share more information about this embankment seep repair
as it becomes available to us
#Post#: 2277--------------------------------------------------
Re: Erie Canal Embankment Seepage Trouble in Shelby at Jeddo
Creek
DIR By: Doug K
Date: July 14, 2022, 12:06 pm
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As stated earlier, there is yet another Embankment issue, this
time a bit more serious at a major small stream culvert, with
lots of canal water overhead, that is now leaking into the Jeddo
Creek basin below. This embankment is about a 20' tall water
impoundment on the downstream side.
Must have been why the Erie waterline dropped 8 inches last week
in the "60 mile pool" west of Rochester.
Here's the Headline of the repair from the NYSCC Press Release
page:
New York State Canal Corporation announces seepage Mitigation
project along the Erie Canal in the Town of Shelby to begin week
of July 18th
HTML http://www.canals.ny.gov/news/pressrel/2022/2022.07.14-Erie-Canal-Seep-Mitigation-Shelby-Press-Release.pdf
And the ECNA has been out to this location right after the NYS
Canal Corporation cleared their very first Earthen Canal Dam in
their fledgling Embankment Integrity Program. We have captured
this in the "before state". We have included a map below to show
the area. This embankment leak is at the Jeddo Creek culvert,
located underneath Dam #1.
It was cleared as part of the original Erie Embankment
Restoration Project.
The images below were from an earlier ECNA post that looked at
the Erie Embankment Dams that have currently been cleared in
2018.
The NEW repair work is being done on the embankment slope, on
the South side of the waterway & Erie Trail, at the other end of
the culvert shown in the picture below. From the NYCC Press
Release it appears they will dewatering this section perhaps and
then fill the leak, hoping to rebound the impervious layer
needed on water impounding embankments. There are many types of
grout now, that get activated as the wet. Here's a little info
on one product called "Dammit"
HTML https://ecna.createaforum.com/links-to-documents/if-your-earthen-canal-embankment-is-leaking-like-a-sieve-maybe-it's-time-to-dami/
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You can read more about this Embankment Dam at the end of Fruit
Avenue in Medina, and other cleared Erie embankments, located at
this western end of the Erie, in this ECNA post:
HTML https://ecna.createaforum.com/erie-canal-embankment-integrity-program-(eip)/is-the-canal-corporation-lying-about-embankment-integrity/?message=887
Read more about this canal embankment leak in the Orleans Hub
HTML https://orleanshub.com/canal-corp-will-work-to-mitigate-seepage-next-week-in-shelby-near-jeddo-creek/
#Post#: 2286--------------------------------------------------
Those damned trees! Causing trouble AGAIN!
DIR By: Michael Caswell
Date: July 21, 2022, 5:51 pm
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Notice to Mariners
Champlain Canal – Schuylerville
July 21, 2022
Mariners are advised of a report of a tree in the Canal in the
vicinity of the Schuylerville Boat Ramp. This area is below
Champlain Canal Lock C-5 in Schuylerville. Canal maintenance
forces have been notified.
Boaters should proceed with caution through this area.
A chart covering the affected area can be found at
HTML https://www.canals.ny.gov/navinfo/charts/14786c05l.png
Features along the eastern portion of the Erie Canal are listed
by mileage at
HTML https://www.canals.ny.gov/wwwapps/navinfo/navinfo.aspx?waterway=champlain
In case of emergencies, please call the Canal Corporation
Emergency Call Center at: (833) 538-1042.
The Canal Corporation urges all users to register to receive
updates through the "Notice to Mariners" notification program at
www.canals.ny.gov.
For updates and information, please visit Canals.NY.gov or
follow us on Facebook or Twitter
#Post#: 2287--------------------------------------------------
Re: More Trouble with the Erie Canal, those damned trees,
causing trouble yet AGAIN!
DIR By: Doug K
Date: July 22, 2022, 12:11 pm
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It has not been a very good past three days for the Erie Canal
or the NYS Canal Corporation.
It's another plague of Harmful Algae Blooms (HABs) near Buffalo
and yet another ANNUAL rash of "falling trees" that once again
are finding their way into the navigation channel.
And we can expect somewhere between 10 & 15 more of these
"obstruction or floating debris notices, before November, when
the Canal Embankment "tree clearing" SEASON can officially
start.
That embankment clearing effort should help to whittle the issue
of dead trees and tree roots down to size, That is what is
making for hazardous conditions inside & outside of the
canalway, trees that haven't been properly managed for the
location they have chosen to grow on the past 100 years.
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So when someone tells you that trees "belong" on the Erie Canal
and all along it's earthen embankment dams, remember this...
That statement is NOT true according to the people who maintain
it. Both NY Power and NY Canals have been crystal clear that
trees are a MAJOR safety issue right now along the Erie Canal.
And it's NOT true according to NYS Dept. of Environmental
Conservation who writes the rules for Dams & Dam Safety in NY,
like those along the Erie. Also NOT true by the US Army
Engineers or FEMA standards, who write and maintain the Rules &
Guidelines about Dams, Dam Vegetation, and Dam Safety at the
Federal level.
The facts are simple: 49 of 50 States in our Country use some
form of Dam Safety guidance set by either their own State level
DEC or they defer to FEMA or the USACE for Dam Safety manuals or
guides. All of those Dam Safety rules say the same thing, trees
are not allowed to grow on earthen dams as it compromises the
water impounding capability of the dam itself.
But there is one place you can go where people are denying these
facts - Facebook of course.
#Post#: 2302--------------------------------------------------
Re: More Trouble with Erie Canal Embankments and Dead Trees in
the Waterway
DIR By: Doug K
Date: August 5, 2022, 3:12 pm
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And as predicted, ANOTHER notice to mariners with the topic:
Channel Obstruction
HTML https://ecna.createaforum.com/notices-from-the-canal-authority/erie-canal-ntm-review-for-2022-inspections!-repairs!-reduced-depths!/
A good sized tree has fallen into the Erie Canal, over 60' tall
in the Town of Ridgeway, that is blocking 40' of channelway.
So much for the thought that "trees aren't a problem" along Erie
Canal Embankments.
HTML https://www.canals.ny.gov/wwwapps/tas/notices/ntm.aspx?id=1950
New slogan for the Canal Corporation... "shade is cool, until
TREES fall into the "sixty mile pool"
#Post#: 2303--------------------------------------------------
Re: More Trouble with Erie Canal Embankments and Dead Trees in
the Waterway
DIR By: Doug K
Date: August 5, 2022, 3:24 pm
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And now it seems that trees are raining down like cats n dogs
into the Erie Canal... this just out.
Channel Obstruction: Erie Canal Orleans County
Mariners are advised of a tree blocking the navigation channel
just east of the Sweden Walker Rd. Bridge E-180 over the Erie
Canal in Sweden. Maintenance crews have been notified and are on
site. It is anticipated the tree will be removed in 2 to 3
hours.
Read it again here
HTML https://www.canals.ny.gov/wwwapps/tas/notices/ntm.aspx?id=1951
This TREE is blocking the entire channel, a channel that is 120'
wide in the 60 mile pool.
This is in Monroe County, not Orleans County as stated in the
NTM.
And to think, there are actually people on social media that do
NOT want the Canal Corporation to fix this "tree issue", instead
saying they prefer "shade" to public safety and canal viability.
I guess they can float out into the channel on inner tubes to
get shade from this tree, right?
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