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       Re: If Joe was an elementary school teacher
       By: Bashtard Date: February 1, 2020, 6:41 am
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       Gun ownership makes you feel free??? Joe it is a lie that
       gullible USAnian have bought into. It means your law enforcement
       and security are armed and 100 times more likely to take your
       life.
       I can argue with the police and they are powerless to assert
       control. Same with security. As long as I am within the law then
       private security cannot touch me or even attempt to coerce me. I
       photograph and film government offices and private security
       staff try to stop me, but because I am on a public road they are
       powerless to stop me in anyway. I film government employees
       leaving and entering the building. The employees that take
       children from fathers and families with minimal factual evidence
       or reason. I am free to harass the agents of the state who go
       after divorced fathers.
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       Re: If Joe was an elementary school teacher
       By: -americanjoe- Date: February 1, 2020, 11:01 am
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       Well, then I am happy that you are happy not having the right to
       gun ownership without having to get the State to monitor you
       constantly.
       You may not know this, but having the government coming and
       taking your guns away (especially the British government) goes
       back a ways here.
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       Re: If Joe was an elementary school teacher
       By: Bashtard Date: February 1, 2020, 11:12 am
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       How does having a gun protect you from the state? They just come
       heavily armed and kill or injure you in the process. Cops take
       me out of my home in handcuffs. They have to carry me but I am
       left largely uninjured.
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       Re: If Joe was an elementary school teacher
       By: -americanjoe- Date: February 1, 2020, 11:36 am
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       1. Part of English culture is that you as a people have an
       absolute trust in your government which translates into your not
       having a history of gun ownership by the citizenry.
       2. Americans for the most part do not trust their government and
       this manifests itself in the quest/desire for personal gun
       ownership.
       Let me save us both a lot of time and I'll lay out how this
       conversation will progress.
       You will no doubt begin a series of statements that personal gun
       ownership does not make the citizenry safer.
       And then I will begin using examples such as in Iraq over the
       past 17 years that illustrate that even an untrained citizenry
       armed with shoulder fired weapons can make so much chaos that
       the government eventually finds it is not worth the effort to
       keep killing civilians.
       So, again, let me state I am happy that you are happy that your
       being disarmed makes you feel safer.
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       Re: If Joe was an elementary school teacher
       By: Bashtard Date: February 1, 2020, 1:34 pm
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       Joe the UK people despise state control. They just voted to do
       away with the higher government from Europe as it was too
       invasive and making up too many regulations. We vote for soft
       government where the rights of individuals and property matter
       more than nearly all European neighbours.
       I have more liberty than you will ever have.
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       Re: If Joe was an elementary school teacher
       By: -americanjoe- Date: February 1, 2020, 9:04 pm
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       Please reference number 1 in my post above.
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       Re: If Joe was an elementary school teacher
       By: Bashtard Date: February 1, 2020, 9:17 pm
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       Your gun ownership in point 1 means that when member states try
       to leave your union, rather than let them go their own way as
       the EU has done, y'all embark on a serious blood letting, raping
       and pillaging. Yeeehaaaa let's go burn the plantations and rape
       the daughters. That is the American psychotic way. You all need
       opiates to keep yourselves from killing each other.
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       Re: If Joe was an elementary school teacher
       By: Bashtard Date: February 1, 2020, 10:07 pm
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       Hell if we were more like Amerikkka, London, Scotland and
       Northern Ireland would have formed militias and broken away from
       the United Kingdom. We would now be under siege from the white
       patriotic Englanders. War crimes happening everywhere and
       economy wrecked.
       Instead we did something unknown for USAnians. A blood less
       revolution.
       Truly we are a civilised people.
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