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       An accident??
       By: Ducky Date: January 8, 2020, 9:42 am
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       Re: An accident??
       By: Bashtard Date: January 8, 2020, 9:48 am
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       The Ukrainian, 2016 built plane? Engine failure would not cause
       it to plummet out of the sky.
       Somebody in the Iranian air defense knows more but is keeping
       quiet. They possibly had somebody who was very jumpy on a
       surface to air system who thought the Israeli's were coming in
       low to take out Tehran's main runway.
       So much for slapping Trump. American losses 0. Civilian deaths
       176.
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       Re: An accident??
       By: Bashtard Date: January 8, 2020, 9:49 am
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       If only Zaffer could return from the dead to post here.
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       Re: An accident??
       By: Ducky Date: January 8, 2020, 9:59 am
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       Apparently the Iranians won't release the black boxes.
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       Re: An accident??
       By: Bashtard Date: January 8, 2020, 11:26 am
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       Putting sophisticated missile systems in the hands of Iranians
       or Ukrainian separatists always was going to be disastrous for
       the Russians.
       Oh well maybe this mess up and slap to Trump that backfired will
       avert a larger war
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       Re: An accident??
       By: Ducky Date: January 9, 2020, 12:27 am
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       And, sadly, get the demented ckunt reelected.
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       Re: An accident??
       By: Bashtard Date: January 9, 2020, 2:10 pm
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       This hardly covers Trump in glory. He forced a rather stupid
       adversary into a corner and they went into panic mode and killed
       176 civilians. It is the perfect argument for de-escalation.
       Trump's child like brinkmanship is partially to blame here. If
       he was half way decent he would apologise and admit his part in
       this tragedy.
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       Re: An accident??
       By: Ducky Date: January 10, 2020, 12:46 am
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       It was indeed shot down, but whether intentionally or in error
       is not yet known.
       The mad Iranian leaders should be deported to North Korea.
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       Re: An accident??
       By: Bashtard Date: January 10, 2020, 1:13 am
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       It is a f@ck up. Sophisticated missile system that locks on in
       seconds given to idiots in a backward religious state and they
       have it searching the flight path of their main international
       airport.
       Russians deserve some blame in this. They were hoping to shoot
       down US jets and humiliate their biggest adversary through Iran.
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       Re: An accident??
       By: Bashtard Date: January 10, 2020, 2:23 am
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       French Air investigators are now invited by Iranians. Maybe the
       Iranians will choose to be honest. If they proceed to cover up
       it could bring the regime down. When you lie and cover up the
       murder of 176 people then you are finished. Regime change which
       Trump's administration have been working towards.
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