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       Goalkeepers and Pairings
       By: Wiseowl65 Date: July 23, 2013, 3:08 pm
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       Hi Guys
       Lets talk goalkeepers and there possible pairings last year i
       went with Jaaskelainen and Begovic at a combined price of i
       think 9m correct me if i am wrong a good solid pairing that
       served me well all season at a very good price, to have that
       pair this season will set you back 11m way to expensive for
       goalkeepers imo so what is your thoughts on combined price, i
       personally think 9.5 is a good price per pairing giving a 5m and
       4.5m for playing keepers i have looked at the 4m choices but i
       cannot see any starters so for me not an option unless you want
       to go for say a 4m and 5.5m or 6m pairing with a non starter not
       a bad idea if you plan to start one keeper all season? Out of
       the goalkeepers i am currently looking at a few stand out above
       others for price and first team selection those being Boruc 4.5m
       and Ruddy 5m but neither of them rotate with each other, others
       are Vorm 5m and Foster 5m but the one that interests me most is
       Mignolet should have Liverpool spot nailed down pending Reina's
       move away to Napoli  but at 5.5m there is a cheaper way into the
       Liverpool defence in Kolo Toure at 5m so is he that much of a
       good shout lets say pairing him with a 4m keeper and playing
       Mignolet every game week home and away will keep you in the 9.5m
       budget. Goalkeepers that rotate well this season are
       West
       Brom - Aston Villa
       
       Newcastle -   Sunderland
       West
       Ham -   Southampton
       Norwich
       -      Stoke City
       Crystal
       Palace - Hull City
       So Whats peoples thoughts and ideas as i am really struggling to
       put together a cheap pairing within budget that rotates well
       indeed can it be achieved. Please feel free to discuss.
       
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       Re: Goalkeepers and Pairings
       By: farside Date: July 23, 2013, 4:33 pm
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       I am having a similar problem with gks. I have mingolet at the
       moment with davis ( just changed after I read your post ). I
       think jasaskelainen might be a fine choice instead of mingolet,
       it does feel like 9.5 is the right number to spend, I cant see
       much past having davis as your sub and the main is just personal
       preference, there doesn't seem to be a huge amount in it though
       you could well argue that jaaskelainen has a slightly better
       fixture list to start with that might actually be a bonus with a
       slightly worse defence as he could benefit from more bonus
       points given the new system ( though how much that will affect
       bonuses on a per game basis is unclear ).
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       Re: Goalkeepers and Pairings
       By: Josephus Date: July 23, 2013, 6:11 pm
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       I'm not a big lover of keepers. I am often tempted by the
       premium goalies but when I'm trying to raise that extra million
       they are the first to be cut.
       When I choose my pair I have one cryteria that I stick to which
       is they must both be first choice. It sounds simple but I don't
       want to have to waste a future tranfer. Having 2 playing keepers
       gives me an element of choice (even if I often get it wrong) and
       it covers me for absences ect. An exception was last year when I
       had Rudd from Norwich because Ruddy had a long term injury.
       I am drawn to the Jaaskelainen and Boruc combo, but at 10 mill
       for the pair I feel its expensive.
       As I've said I want two playing keepers and 10 mill is too much
       that leaves me with either a 5 + 4.5 or 2x 4.5's.
       At 5 mill there are some nice options such as Ruddy (Nor), Vorm
       (Swa) and Foster (WBA).
       Swansea have a tough start playing Man U, Spurs, Liverpool and
       Arsenal in their first 6 games. I can see Vorm's price dropping.
       Last year Vorm and Ruddy were injured. Last season Swansea
       conceded 51 goals, West Brom 57 and Norwich 58.
       At 4.5 mill we get a choice from any of the newly promoted
       teams. This feels like a gamble on either one. Boruc at
       Southampton is tempting, but with Shaw and Clyne great budget
       defenders do you want to double up on a Southampton defence?
       Szczesny (5.5) at Arsenal deserves a mention. Arsenal conceded
       just 37 goals last season and had the second tightest defence in
       the league. He does feel like the best value keeper in the game
       this season. It may be worth moving some money out of defence to
       bring Szczesny in?
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       Re: Goalkeepers and Pairings
       By: farside Date: July 23, 2013, 6:36 pm
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       totally agree with all of this, I did want to say there was some
       reason I didn't pick szczesney but I cannot think what it was
       now....possibly its just effort typing his name a lot into
       potential team listings....apart from that he looks great and I
       am strongly considering him!
       I suspect im just going to choose a 5.5 keeper to go with
       davis...
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       Re: Goalkeepers and Pairings
       By: Wiseowl65 Date: July 24, 2013, 11:25 am
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       If I can somehow find .5m to get Jusi and Boruc in I do feel
       that this is the best pairing but its 10m .5m above what I like
       to spend, they both rotate well have good early fixtures i
       believe both teams will keep a good few clean sheets this year
       especially Southampton they both play the 1 striker up top in a
       4231  which should give them a good solid midfield screen in
       front of their defence in Wanyama and Schniederlin. I prefer
       Clyne over Shaw as Shaw picked up a few niggling injuries last
       season and may be prone to the odd rest due to his young age and
       they have Danny Foxx who could step in and do a job also I would
       have Clyne and Boruc in the same defensive unit it worked last
       year for me with Begovic and Shawcross certainly for the early
       season home games. Thoughts.
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       Re: Goalkeepers and Pairings
       By: farside Date: July 24, 2013, 11:34 am
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       Im not averse to spending that .5 million if its truly worth it,
       do you have it spare in your squad though? I am really not good
       with the rotating GK thing, last season I basically used one
       goalie and just had the cheapest starter I could as backup, I
       was never sure what was wrong with this.
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       Re: Goalkeepers and Pairings
       By: Wiseowl65 Date: July 24, 2013, 11:51 am
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       There is no rights and wrongs lots of people use just one keeper
       all season paired with a non starter on their bench I am leaning
       towards the West Ham- Southampton combo or Mignolet and a other
       which one I don't yet know there is a long way to go yet so lets
       just tinker away and get the combo right :)
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       Re: Goalkeepers and Pairings
       By: farside Date: July 24, 2013, 11:57 am
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       for most of my squads I have mingolet and davis, it seems pretty
       good but mingolet could be any one of several 5.5m keepers, its
       pretty hard to distinguish between them and I suspect ill spend
       30 mins at some point going through the first 10 weeks of
       fixtures to see who has the better run :)
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       Re: Goalkeepers and Pairings
       By: Josephus Date: July 24, 2013, 3:47 pm
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       [quote author=farside link=topic=6.msg42#msg42 date=1374685069]
       for most of my squads I have mingolet and davis
       [/quote]
       Isn't Davis no.2 at Southampton? If he is this feels like a
       gamble that will come and bite you at some stage.
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       Re: Goalkeepers and Pairings
       By: farside Date: July 24, 2013, 3:50 pm
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       urg you could be right, I haven't done as much research as I
       should on gks, I just saw he was the 4m gk with the most points.
       I do agree you need 2 starters to be on the safe side more often
       than not even if they are bad.
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