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       #Post#: 131--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Races.
   DIR By: Matt
       Date: August 14, 2010, 11:50 pm
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       Not pure specialty. It's just that's where they excel... like
       Androids can have Tier 5 Tech upgrades. I'm not saying they
       can't have Physical ones, but they'll be limited.
       #Post#: 162--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Races.
   DIR By: Silver
       Date: August 16, 2010, 11:05 pm
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       Yeah, regarding the alternate storyline, should Raditz never
       reach the Earth, Piccolo would've been still stronger than Goku,
       who would've never died nor visited Kaio-sama, making him a LOT
       weaker. No OVER NINE THOUSAND!!!!!! this time. :( Although...
       Goku would've kept on heavy training and he would've still been
       the World Martial Arts champ the next time as well inspiring
       people in a way Mr. Satan kinda did, and thus strengthening the
       human race.
       Regarding Gohan, he would've been a lot weaker as well, since
       Piccolo wasn't there to make him experience the wild life, and
       would still be a wuss, making him reluctant to fighting. In a
       fight with, Piccolo, though, his dad was close to death and
       Gohan saved him with his hidden power. Piccolo also injures
       Gohan (Saiyan near death power level raise affects both) and
       Goku eventually defeats Piccolo. Goku made Gohan realize about
       his true power and then trained him. And, he recovers the
       missing training while training hard to set an example for
       Gohan.
       Meanwhile, Vegeta's level doesn't change much. No near-death
       experience makes him weaker, but also, less time recovering is
       time he spends training. And since he still hates Frieza, the
       training become intense, making him stronger than canon in the
       long run. And we reach the end of the Saiyan saga.
       I have wild imagination for non canon storylines. This was just
       a quick draft. I can come up with more ideas for storylines. :P
       #Post#: 165--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Races.
   DIR By: Matt
       Date: August 16, 2010, 11:11 pm
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       Hmm, I'm debating how I feel about canon characters in the
       storyline.
       But, about Vegeta, the only reason he got so powerful was he was
       constantly feeling inferior to Goku, and kept trying to one-up
       him. That would mean no Super Saiyan 1, 2, or 3.
       #Post#: 167--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Races.
   DIR By: Silver
       Date: August 16, 2010, 11:26 pm
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       Vegeta doesn't know about Goku yet. And he still thinks he's
       inferior. Frieza, on the other hand, is still superior, and
       Vegeta is very competitive. Remember that Vegeta's ultimate goal
       was immortality, which Frieza also pursuited. That's what fueled
       Vegeta's rage and hate: rivalry. Also, since I believe in the
       butterfly effect (in time travelling, the smallest of changes
       builds up to a huge change in the "alternate" future), and not
       destroying Planet Vegeta is something big, that led them to
       never knowing about the Namek's Dragon Balls.
       We can later bring Dende to Earth by Kami-sama's command, and
       Piccolo will fuse with him (as canon) and team up for the first
       time with Goku during the Android saga. This also creates a
       weaker Cell, since the Z Warriors aren't as strong and there's
       no Frieza, King Cold or Vegeta. Also, no Vegeta means no Trunks,
       making the Androids' arrival completely surprising. Aaaaaand...
       no heart disease. Goku led a different life, and lets say his
       sickness wasn't genetic, meaning it was eventually avoided.
       SSJ levels would come during the Android Saga, deducing the
       merciless Androids would kill some of the Z Fighters, and then,
       since it's something completely new, it catches Gero's droids
       off guard and becomes the table-turner. This news of the SSJ
       reach Frieza, drawing him and the Saiyans finally to Earth...
       Dude, I should stop now. I won't be able to sleep. o.o lol
       #Post#: 169--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Races.
   DIR By: Matt
       Date: August 16, 2010, 11:32 pm
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       Good idea, since last thing FT told me was that it was going to
       be a 200 years in the future deal.
       Plus, I've got the idea that Buu killed alot more of the Kai,
       becoming even more powerful and eventually grew bored of
       constant destruction and just created his own world of his body,
       creating the Majin species, and explaining why Kai's are
       recruiting average species into their ranks.
       #Post#: 173--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Races.
   DIR By: firetools
       Date: August 17, 2010, 12:28 am
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       The Saiyan saga still exists, but because saiyans aren't extinct
       Well I say we build a new story, beginning from frieza NOT
       attacking planet Vegeta. We need a human power booster and a
       Saiyan Power nerfer
       #Post#: 176--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Races.
   DIR By: Matt
       Date: August 17, 2010, 12:31 am
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       ... can my Buu story stay? Because the settles three problems
       pretty nicely.
       #Post#: 182--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Races.
   DIR By: firetools
       Date: August 17, 2010, 1:24 am
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       Restate it xD... ex-stoner has bad memory
       #Post#: 184--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Races.
   DIR By: Matt
       Date: August 17, 2010, 12:48 pm
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       --- Quote from: Matt link ---
       >
       > Plus, I've got the idea that Buu killed alot more of the Kai,
       becoming even more powerful and eventually grew bored of
       constant destruction and just created his own world of his body,
       creating the Majin species, and explaining why Kai's are
       recruiting average species into their ranks.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       Apparently very bad, that was only two posts ago. XP
       #Post#: 188--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Races.
   DIR By: firetools
       Date: August 17, 2010, 3:01 pm
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       :P Nvm that was over looked xD. But yes, I like it
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