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       #Post#: 113--------------------------------------------------
       Miners close in on Spanish toddler Julen Rosello trapped in a
       well
   DIR By: Satanica
       Date: January 25, 2019, 10:28 am
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  HTML https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/miners-close-in-on-spanish-toddler-julen-rosello-trapped-in-a-well
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       > TOTALAN, Spain (AFP) - Miners closed in on Friday (Jan 25) on
       a toddler who fell in a well on Jan 13 in southern Spain,
       keeping the country on tenterhooks with a rescue operation
       fraught with glitches.
       >
       > Rescuers have been working round-the-clock under the media
       glare to try and reach two-year-old Julen Rosello, whose parents
       say fell down a narrow shaft as he was playing in Totalan, a
       town near Malaga.
       >
       > There has been no sign of life from the boy but rescuers think
       they know where he is inside the illegal well which is more than
       100m deep.
       >
       > On Friday, miners were deep underground in a
       specially-excavated shaft parallel to the well, painstakingly
       digging a 4m tunnel to join both channels and hopefully reach
       Julen with the help of small, controlled explosions.
       >
       > Jorge Martin, a spokesman for the Civil Guard police force,
       told reporters the miners, who were equipped with oxygen tanks,
       were also having to extract "the contaminated air and gases that
       are underground".
       >
       > But with "complex terrain conditions," according to a
       government spokeswoman in Malaga, progress was slow. By early
       Friday afternoon, workers had dug 2.5m out of the four needed.
       >
       > Rescuers have not been able to get to Julen via the well he
       fell down because it is blocked by a layer of earth, sand and
       stones believed to have been dislodged when he tumbled into the
       shaft.
       >
       > They decided to dig a vertical shaft parallel to the well, 60
       metres deep, which was finished late on Monday.
       >
       > The idea was to secure the shaft with tubes then take elite
       miners down in a specially made cage to start digging a
       horizontal tunnel to the site where they believe the child is.
       >
       > But the tubes designed to secure the shaft didn't fit, so they
       had to widen it, which delayed the operation still further.
       >
       > Eventually, they succeeded and the miners are now busy digging
       the horizontal tunnel, taking turns in teams of two.
       >
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       #Post#: 157--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Miners close in on Spanish toddler Julen Rosello trapped in
       a well
   DIR By: Siobhan
       Date: January 25, 2019, 1:43 pm
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       --- Quote from: Satanica link ---
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       >
  HTML https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/miners-close-in-on-spanish-toddler-julen-rosello-trapped-in-a-well
       > [quote]
       > TOTALAN, Spain (AFP) - Miners closed in on Friday (Jan 25) on
       a toddler who fell in a well on Jan 13 in southern Spain,
       keeping the country on tenterhooks with a rescue operation
       fraught with glitches.
       >
       > Rescuers have been working round-the-clock under the media
       glare to try and reach two-year-old Julen Rosello, whose parents
       say fell down a narrow shaft as he was playing in Totalan, a
       town near Malaga.
       >
       > There has been no sign of life from the boy but rescuers think
       they know where he is inside the illegal well which is more than
       100m deep.
       >
       > On Friday, miners were deep underground in a
       specially-excavated shaft parallel to the well, painstakingly
       digging a 4m tunnel to join both channels and hopefully reach
       Julen with the help of small, controlled explosions.
       >
       > Jorge Martin, a spokesman for the Civil Guard police force,
       told reporters the miners, who were equipped with oxygen tanks,
       were also having to extract "the contaminated air and gases that
       are underground".
       >
       > But with "complex terrain conditions," according to a
       government spokeswoman in Malaga, progress was slow. By early
       Friday afternoon, workers had dug 2.5m out of the four needed.
       >
       > Rescuers have not been able to get to Julen via the well he
       fell down because it is blocked by a layer of earth, sand and
       stones believed to have been dislodged when he tumbled into the
       shaft.
       >
       > They decided to dig a vertical shaft parallel to the well, 60
       metres deep, which was finished late on Monday.
       >
       > The idea was to secure the shaft with tubes then take elite
       miners down in a specially made cage to start digging a
       horizontal tunnel to the site where they believe the child is.
       >
       > But the tubes designed to secure the shaft didn't fit, so they
       had to widen it, which delayed the operation still further.
       >
       > Eventually, they succeeded and the miners are now busy digging
       the horizontal tunnel, taking turns in teams of two.
       >
       --- End Quote ---
       [/quote]
       Considering the fact that his parents heard him scream as he
       fell, but no other sounds have been reported (IIRC), the well is
       only 10 inches wide - meaning he would have hit the bottom from
       a height of 360 feet on his feet/legs, and it's been more than
       10 days without food or water (unless he landed in some water at
       the bottom of the well) - this, very sadly is no longer what EMS
       crews would call a "rescue" effort, but is most probably now
       only a "recovery" effort.
       The child may have hit water at the bottom and drowned, or
       suffered severe bone shattering injuries to his legs or possibly
       even head injuries - the fact that they've not heard him at all
       from the beginning of the rescue is something that every rescue
       worker there has probably kept in the back of their minds from
       the beginning of their efforts.
       What you absolutely want in these types of situations is to hear
       the child, even if they're screaming in pain - and I know how
       awful that sounds, but it means they are alive and conscious,
       which is a most glorious and hopeful sign that you can
       communicate with them, drop down water, foods, and even
       emergency mylar thermal blankets for protection against the
       cold/shock.
       I pray (yes, Siobhan does pray, just not for herself) with every
       ounce of my being that I am wrong here, and that at any moment
       they'll reach this little boy *alive*, and even if he's injured
       that those injuries are both survivable and recoverable so that
       he may live a long life.
       #Post#: 160--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Miners close in on Spanish toddler Julen Rosello trapped in
       a well
   DIR By: Sue Sue
       Date: January 25, 2019, 1:56 pm
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       Poor little guy.  Remember baby Jessica?
       #Post#: 419--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Miners close in on Spanish toddler Julen Rosello trapped in
       a well
   DIR By: Satanica
       Date: January 28, 2019, 9:40 am
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  HTML http://www.rtve.es/noticias/20190126/directo-rescate-julen/1872500.shtml
       Translation wasn't available, but it says the little boy's body
       has been found.
       #Post#: 760--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Miners close in on Spanish toddler Julen Rosello trapped in
       a well
   DIR By: KatO9Tails
       Date: January 30, 2019, 11:47 am
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       this imo as stated elsewhere on DD was murder. The hole was too
       small for a toddler to fall down but big enough to pick up and
       toss into like a chute. You watch little kids and tell me how
       many could manage a both foot jump to actually go into a hole
       like that 12/18" around? wouldn't happen the candy wrapper are
       suspicious too, like they were dropped in as an after thought
       for "evidence"? how would he have been able to open candy on the
       way down or have in his hands without catching himself before
       even up to hs butt in a hole like that. The second child of
       theirs dead in a freak accident doesn't pay well either. Am
       wondering what kind of insurance policies they had on the family
       #Post#: 771--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Miners close in on Spanish toddler Julen Rosello trapped in
       a well
   DIR By: BG
       Date: January 30, 2019, 12:03 pm
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       I tend to agree with you, but the older brother died from
       cardiac issues. I believe I read it was an undiagnosed condition
       that cause his little heart attack while he was walking on the
       beach. Just going on memory and an utter lack of sleep here...
       I might be totally wrong.
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