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       Pennsylvania - UPMC hospitals institute masking requirement 
       By: Steve Date: February 10, 2025, 2:56 pm
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       SUMMARY - UPMC (University of Pittsburgh Medical Center)
       hospitals are instituting a masking requirement for all
       patients, visitors, support persons, and staff in patient care
       areas starting on February 12, 2025.
       LINK -
  HTML https://www.wtae.com/article/masks-upmc-respiratory-illness/63741115
  HTML https://www.wtae.com/article/masks-upmc-respiratory-illness/63741115
       #Post#: 3085--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pennsylvania - UPMC hospitals institute masking requirement 
       By: Masked Man Date: February 10, 2025, 9:07 pm
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       [quote author=Steve link=topic=1906.msg3084#msg3084
       date=1739220964]
       SUMMARY - UPMC (University of Pittsburgh Medical Center)
       hospitals are instituting a masking requirement for all
       patients, visitors, support persons, and staff in patient care
       areas starting on February 12, 2025.
       LINK -
  HTML https://www.wtae.com/article/masks-upmc-respiratory-illness/63741115
  HTML https://www.wtae.com/article/masks-upmc-respiratory-illness/63741115
       [/quote]
       well its feb 10th two more super spreading  days to go at the
       hospital (University of Pittsburgh Medical Center)..
       .. What's weird is that the Pittsburg's ACTION NEWS FOUR channel
       is not actually doing a segment on the hospital University of
       Pittsburgh Medical Center but rather a story on the Allegheny
       Health Network which is not using any masks in their footage
       whatsoever and doesn't mention anything about masks in their
       news coverage. At Allegheny Health Network they just talked
       about hand washing and basically showed tons of footage of
       doctors talking maskless about the "quademic" and how dangerous
       it is meanwhile there's no masks on the doctors or people
       featured in the news story that's for sure. People in the news
       story are coughing and sneezing and all it says on the news is
       to keep washing those dirty hands! .. yet the article  reads
       that some spokesperson at Allegheny Health Network is "strongly
       encouraging mask usage"...Ha! A spokesperson!? There's never
       spokesperson around whenever Ive gone to the doctors!
       Its like the Pittsburg's ACTION NEWS FOUR went to the wrong
       place or mis-titled their news story ..maybe they did that
       because the news channel didn't have to wear masks over at
       Allegheny Health Network so they went to Allegheny Health
       Network for footage instead of the hospital University of
       Pittsburgh Medical Center which will require cameramen and news
       anchors to actually wear a mask two days from now.
       I'm glad to see the hospital University of Pittsburgh Medical
       Center is planning on using masks two days from now which just
       seems weird to wait. I guess they need time to figure out how
       the mask goes on. :)
       I mean jeesh the news story is entitled "UPMC (University of
       Pittsburgh Medical Center) hospitals are instituting a masking
       requirement" So a news channel needs to at least show some
       footage of people properly wearing N95 masks with no nose
       slippage just so people know what to expect and so they can
       learn from the news!
       Its like they can't bring themselves to even show a mask or
       prepare people to wear one for the hospital story they are
       supposed to be doing. Is there something wrong with showing
       footage of healthy or at least responsible loving people in
       their masks either abiding a guideline or working professionally
       in their masks in America!? News is supposed to be informative
       and at least offer a little guidance as to how to wear a mask if
       they are going to do a story it. I'm telling ya man people act
       like the mask is some sort of punishment when really its a
       blessing and a lifesaver. I tell you the news made Allegheny
       Health Network look horrible all they show is some maskless
       doctor telling everybody to wash their hands ..lol .. super
       spread city man! The new article writes later that a spokes
       person at Allegheny Health Network telling the news channel in
       retrospect they encourage masking!? That's just total hogwash!
       An anonymous spokesperson for Allegheny Health Network with no
       mention of their name!? lol c'mon gimmie a break... anybody here
       ever hear about a "spokesperson" at a healthcare facility? Ever
       meet one?
       Regardless I am glad to see the hospital University of
       Pittsburgh Medical Center is planning on using masks.
       I guess they are gonna wait for two more days... and maybe
       practice breaking their mask in at home or something. I mean
       there's no rush  right?(...I'm being sarcastic... )Its only a
       quademic .. ::)  after all its  not quindemic or a
       sextuplitdemic not quite yet unless we count bird flu or
       monkeypox in there or tuberculosis which is in certain
       regions...
       I wanna see some masks!!! hurry..why wait for the the
       quintodemic!? A quademic is an emergency enough..if one don't
       get ya the other three will ...there's at least four airborne
       diseases going at same time  at same time that is like Russian
       roulette with four bullets the chamber... there's a 'quademic'
       going on!
       The Masked Man
       #Post#: 3090--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pennsylvania - UPMC hospitals institute masking requirement 
       By: Data Report Date: February 11, 2025, 12:01 am
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       Good to see that they are doing this, I hope more healthcare
       systems/organizations follow along and make masking mandatory
       again.
       #Post#: 3092--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pennsylvania - UPMC hospitals institute masking requirement 
       By: Masked Man Date: February 11, 2025, 4:46 am
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       I hope they keep their masking mandate on because then they will
       be in the habit of wearing masks around airborne diseases year
       round and people will stay safer.
       Its like as soon as people get better they take off the mask...
       that's just like abandoning a motorcycle helmet law every time
       nobody gets any head injuries it would be like lifting the
       helmet law until a majority of people start getting head
       injuries then they'd have to reissue the helmet law...
       Airborne illnesses are just the nature of the doctors and nurses
       work and its the nature of what healthcare facilities deal with
       year long.. airborne illnesses and diseases is a doctor and
       nurses "occupational hazard so  I am hoping they keep masking
       for this occupational and social hazard just like a painter of
       commercial products has to also wear a mask.. anyway that's my
       hope is they get into the habit of using all the precautions for
       the airborne illnesses they deal with year round no matter how
       fewer cases appear. An airborne disease is what they work around
       so to me it just makes sense to wear protective gear for the job
       they have just like a construction worker on heavy equipment has
       to wear a helmet.
       I am glad at least they are on the right track,, I just hope
       they stay on it and get into the habit of using the right gear
       for the right job and the right protective mask for the
       microscopic entities they routinely deal with year round .
       I do wish newscasters would wear masks when they enter dangerous
       areas.. the newscasters themselves aren't playing along with the
       rules.. they need to wear masks when they enter dangerous
       grounds such as when entering healthcare grounds and when they
       are around herds and flocks of animals... if they do a story on
       masks then they need to show some masks.
       But yeah at least this hospital is going to have mandate and
       they haven't said its only a 2 week deal ..
       I guess I'm just dreaming that healthcare and dentists will mask
       for good.
       I'm so tired of living in fear of healthcare facilities. I'm
       scared to go and take my loved ones around sick people that
       don't mask. Its very uncomfortable to go to these waiting rooms
       with sick people that don't mask so we avoid getting medical
       attention and going to dentist. My loved one is 78 years old and
       its like pulling teeth to get people to respect and even put on
       a mask around her and me.
       Its super tough and we skip going to doctors and dentist because
       where I live nobody masks and that's hard for us personally.
       Glad to see one hospital mandating masking.
       I feel guilty for not taking loved one to doctors but the sick
       people there don't mask I wish healthcare would mandate the mask
       here for good and for the sake of goodness.
       Healthcare facilities , doctor's offices eye doctor's and
       dentists have just  got to be the most likely places to get sick
       or catch  diseases number one.. that's where sick people with
       ailments go and that's where there's a lot close encounters and
       gatherings of people are either  sick or with ailments occur.
       These are the number one most likely  places to get sick which
       is why it should be a law they mask there. Illnesses and
       diseases go along with this territory and is name of their game,
       A doctor or nurse without a mask is like a bird without a beak,
       tree, or wings.. it doesn't make sense
       maybe more and more healthcare facilities will adopt the same
       mask mandate stance this hospital is. That would make life so
       much easier.
       .
       #Post#: 3134--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Pennsylvania - UPMC hospitals institute masking requirement 
       By: Masked Man Date: February 13, 2025, 4:31 pm
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       Summary: UPMC dials back mask mandate
       It appears that UPMC has dialed back the mask mandate scheduled
       to begin Wednesday in all of its facilities.
       LINK
  HTML https://www.post-gazette.com/news/health/2025/02/12/upmc-mask-requirement/stories/202502130030
       That masking didn't last long...not even a day! Its like they
       are teasing me ... I guess people would rather catch and spread
       a disease than try to prevent illness and prevent its spread
       with the mask. What madman or madwoman  would protest against
       their establishment using safety masks in a quademic of illness
       and diseases!? Do doctors and nurses have a say in this or are
       they the ones that think it wise to inhale these dangerous
       particles? I wouldn't advise medical staff to risk airborne
       diseases maskless...I wouldn't breathe that stuff in ..I'd quit.
       This is dangerous. Read the latest studies on the long term
       repercussions of covid alone and that should put the fear into
       you. That's playing with fire risking undetermined diseases
       ..just the daily sheer exposure to the vast amount and number of
       illnesses and diseases you face is ridiculous to leave to
       chance. We are in the unchartered territory of viruses..  Cover
       your faces for goodness sake or at least stop whining about how
       your hospital's waiting rooms are swamped and you are
       overwhelmed with the sick and stop bragging about how hard you
       got it or that covid is making a comeback if you aren't going to
       mask...
       ...I just don't see how hospitals and doctors have a right to
       complain about the quademic and being overwhelmed at their
       hospital with sick people and then "dial back' their protective
       measures in regards to the mask
       Ive been wearing the mask for quite some time now and  yeah in
       public I feel a bit ostracized for it...people laugh and snicker
       at my mask when I ride by the maskless on my bicycle however I
       haven't been sick with anything in five years since I started
       using the safety mask. Healthcare has no right to complain or
       get attention from the press if they don't mask... airborne
       diseases are an occupational hazard in the work they chose and
       this is blasphemy in regards to the Hippocratic oath that
       doctors are supposed to honor as thus:
       "My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to
       care adequately for the sick. I will prevent disease whenever I
       can, for prevention is preferable to cure".
       This is a grievance and complaint I have had towards healthcare
       ever since covid came destroying peoples lives and society  and
       I direct my grievance  towards healthcare...
       Dear Doctors and Nurses,
       ... masking helps prevent disease.Dear Healthcare, If you aren't
       going to give masks a chance then PLEASE stop complaining and
       whining about airborne diseases and airborne illnesses because
       theat is the nature of airborne and respiratory diseases: people
       who breathe  in  airborne illness and diseases often get sick
       and ill! That's just the nature of the beast and common sense.
       Doctors and nurses aren't trying very hard to honor the
       Hippocratic oath  and its hard not to believe that the maskless
       aren't trying to deny  the fundamental physics of science and
       airborne diseases.. its hard for the Masked man to believe they
       don't deserve these illnesses and diseases because science says
       that airborne diseases travel through the air and somehow get
       into membranes of mouth and nose and and eventually lungs and
       are very dangerous  microscopic particles. Its hard to respect
       doctors and nurses who aren't taking as many protective measures
       as possible to protect themselves and others through masks ,
       sanitation and air purification strategies and tools available
       to them through all the technology that we have.
       They are admitingly taking less safety measures than more and
       complaining about the surge of illness at the same time.... stop
       complaining if you don't mask and you get sick or others get
       sick because that's the nature of airborne diseases. If people
       don't mask those are the chances we take according to my
       experience and what Ive studied about airborne diseases and
       airborne illnesses which appear to be quite prevalent in society
       right now according to school closures and medical news. It
       appears people are facing four even five viruses out there all
       at once if you look at the daily data. At this point what do you
       have to lose by masking?.. you are already losing lives and
       losing to these viruses according to worldwide data and news.
       I'm sorry but in healthcare setting its just dangerous to
       breathe in microscopic entities of airborne diseases and
       airborne illnesses. If those in healthcare condone and make
       devastating viruses legal to spread You might as well make it
       legal to sniff paint fumes. You know how these viruses work. You
       know people with airborne diseases and airborne illnesses carry
       and emit devastating dangerous particles through their breath.
       Again the Hippocratic oath that doctors are supposed to honor as
       thus:
       "My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to
       care adequately for the sick. I will prevent disease whenever I
       can, for prevention is preferable to cure".
       .. so will the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center make a
       statement about the Hippocratic oath? I guess the University of
       Pittsburgh Medical Center isn't educated because I heard that
       masks help prevent airborne illnesses and airborne diseases... I
       don't get it. Masks help prevent airborne diseases and airborne
       illnesses. I just think its wrong to not prevent harmful
       particles when in a hazard zone be they from people or objects.
       I'm going to say the odds  are  definitely in the viruses favor
       at this particular medical center.
       So many questions perhaps beyond the scope of even this
       forum...Am Why is there this urge in me to save people from
       suffering? Wearing a mask is a skill... I guess everybody can't
       survive a pandemic or it wouldn't be a pandemic. If everybody
       wore a mask and there was no suffering or disease to slow human
       progress down or to slow the human race down would the world be
       a better place?
       If I may be at liberty with the good readers here, I dare ask in
       the big picture on a cosmic level why are there  airborne
       illnesses and airborne diseases in existence? What good are such
       phenomenon on earth? If I look at other animals besides the
       human species it seems easy to me: I can't help but think
       diseases occur when and because animals are overpopulated or
       their habitat isn't big enough or healthy enough just like a pet
       in a terrarium, and then microscopic entities take over in the
       form of diseases or viruses that somehow curtails their
       lifeforms. I learned this as a child when keeping small pets.
       Because of education coupled with innate experience I kept
       creatures alive and they thrived from the environment and
       atmosphere I played a hand in.
       All I know is for me the mask becomes a habit and its not so bad
       once ya get used to it considering the alternative.
       There but for the grace of the mask go I,
       The Masked Man
       P.S I want to share something about myself with you. I am
       actually a hedonist in a sense. I live a life that seeks
       pleasure. I tend to take the path of least resistance.. I am
       somewhat lazy in that I don't like to do work unless I have to
       and I despise all suffering and avoid all pain. One might think
       this would lead to a life of vices such as drinking, drugs and
       seeking pleasures unlimited but on the contrary it does not.
       Because I like pleasure I don't drink because of the problems it
       gives me such as social conflict, liver problems, etc and
       whatever pleasures I do seek never backfire on me. I wear a mask
       because it is too pleasurable having a body light and happy free
       of disease or pesky viruses. I am such a clever hedonist in that
       I only trouble myself with necessary things that benefit me in
       such a way that I have the most enduring pleasures rather than
       temporary fleeting pleasures because of my life choices and
       masked way of life. There is much pleasure in health and safety.
       So any way I am not really a saint but rather a hedonist that
       uses the mask ;)
       .
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       Re: Pennsylvania - UPMC hospitals institute masking requirement 
       By: Masked Man Date: February 13, 2025, 9:24 pm
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       There's so many issues.. it would just be easier to mask.
       I thinking legally:
       If somebody gets hurt on the job because somebody doesn't give
       them the proper tool or something that someone can sue the
       establishment or person in charge.
       Likewise  a doctor or nurse gets hurt on the job because they
       didn't have the proper safety gear on and breathed in dangerous
       particles that maimed them for life or left them with a
       disability can they sue?
       I remember when AIDS was new. Maybe A person with AIDS would
       tell their partner and they would deal with the tragedy
       responsibly and abstain from certain practices just like anybody
       in an intimate relationship where one person would get sick and
       the other would have to take precautions from getting sick...
       ...and then there were some rare dubious instances where
       somebody with AIDS that knew they had AIDS didn't care if they
       infected others and had encounters where they actually infected
       others and there were steep legal penalties for knowingly and
       willingly infecting another person with AIDS..
       ...How is giving someone AIDS this much different than people
       who knowingly infect others with covid now that we are aware of
       many many long term repercussions and longterm ill effects from
       having caught covid through many legitimate studies that are
       available?
       If doctors and nurses know how covid and other airborne diseases
       and illnesses get transmitted and are aware of all the various
       preventative measures for preventing it why would they skip
       certain precautions any more than they would skip steps in not
       transmitting AIDS? Likewise doctors and nurses don't have any
       way of determining who has an airborne disease and airborne
       illnesse that they haven't diagnosed yet so isn't it a
       prerequisite to have the mask on in advance of pre diagnostics?
       Who knows what disease or illness anybody has in the waiting
       room so wouldn't it make sense to mask in advance for the
       prospective as of yet diagnosed disease?
       Since no one knows in advance what they are transmitting to each
       other  they would  be responsible  for an undetermined unknown
       diseases or illness  being transmitted from maskless patient to
       maskless patient or maskless staff to maskless patient, and/or
       maskless  patient to unmasked guest etc.
       For example guy walks into hospital.healthcare establishment
       feels like he's gonna die.. has huge headache, congested, maybe
       fever, throat hurts.. so he doesn't know maybe it's
       Tuberculosis, Pneumonia, covid, might be influenza.. could even
       be bird flu if he's a farmer or just happens to somehow  get it
       human to human .. he might actually have more than one thing..
       so he comes into the waiting room next to everybody else
       coughing and sputtering and everybody just breathes it in!? lol
       I mean Is that the great safety plan for the clients , doctors,
       nurses and staff alike until somebody diagnosis the poor sick
       possibly highly contagious fellow?
       How can one know whether to mask or  not knowing what illness
       that undiagnosed person walking into the establishment has to
       begin with? pray tell.
       You have to mask in advance,
       The Masked Man
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       Re: Pennsylvania - UPMC hospitals institute masking requirement 
       By: Masked Man Date: February 14, 2025, 5:43 pm
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       Masked Man Caveat statement:
       I am in strong disagreement with professional healthcare's weak
       stance on precautions such as masking. I think its a slap in the
       face to science, medical studies and an insult to humanity not
       to protect ourselves with every measure we have in the face of
       the data that keeps pouring in about the repercussions of covid,
       the current school closures, bird flu pandemic among several
       species, and hospital overcrowding and grievances in healthcare.
       We are in a dire state and to me the lack of masking is
       appalling in the face of airborne disease and airborne
       illnesses.
       In response to lack of Mask mandates in healthcare I say fair
       warning:
       Not wearing a mask around airborne diseases and airborne
       illnesses is the equivalent to walking around the jungle with no
       protective boots and pants on and letting yourself get bit by
       exotic rare poisonous snake after snake just because you think
       you have the antidote.
       Don't be caught with your mask down around a mystery disease in
       the 'qudeemic" of viruses(viruses in the plural form)  doctor!
       The Masked Man! :)
       P.S. Dear Doctors,
       There mask is totally non invasive medical solution to blocking
       and filtering out microscopic entities that ride on droplets and
       vapors from people's breath including doctor's and nurses
       breath. It doesn't require the injection or administering
       intravenous drugs into the subject.. it requires no invasive
       surgery or alteration of the subjects DNA or anything. The mask
       is pragmatical solution to ward off a variety of airborne
       diseases and airborne illnesses from strangers that walk into
       the waiting room with mystery diseases as well as having the
       ability to help drastically prevent patients you know from
       exposure to these illnesses and diseases that you are met with
       in you establishment. The mask carries no long term side effects
       and is a great solution and an aid in helping one honor the
       Hippocratic oath as well. It helps protect the whole of your
       clients and staff and not just the part.
       Doctors, please tell your clientele that might not be sick or
       might be sick to mask up and your guests and staff so I can feel
       safe upon entering your establishment if I ever need to. We wear
       masks for you and my old lady is 78 years old and tough enough
       to wear a mask... please make people wear masks because you are
       supposed to protect against airborne illnesses and airborne
       diseases and make things safe and be patient oriented. Please
       take into account the latest news and data about the current
       challenges we all face with viruses and take into account the
       fact masks can greatly reduce the contagious diseases in your
       establishment. Please do this in the name of your profession and
       base it on medical ethics. I believe airborne illnesses and
       airborne diseases are the occupational hazard in your
       occupation. Maybe you could base your treatment on medical
       studies?
       Doctors,
       Here's a link to some Masking studies that might help save lives
       SUMMARY:
       Masking Studies
       An archive of studies on masking.
       Source 1. Data Report Info
       LINK:
  HTML https://www.datareport.inf
       o/masking-studies/
       How can anyone argue against the safety masks in its ability to
       prevent airborne illnesses in the healthcare profession!? That's
       like the equivalent of being in the birth control business and
       arguing that condoms are of no value.
       Ya wear a mask based upon the same principles and reasons you
       wash your hands and clothes.... its the germs coming from
       people's faces that are super small invisible to the eye some of
       which land on you but mostly are suspended in the air where they
       can easily be breathed in. You wash your hands for those germs
       and viruses so why don't ya include wearing mask for the same
       germs that reside in the air as well? Do they teach this about
       airborne diseases and airborne illness in medical school? Don't
       they teach ya about aerosols and droplets like diagrammed in the
       attachment at bottom of this reply?
       .
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