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       People you know who have/had Covid...
       By: Steve Date: October 23, 2024, 2:21 pm
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       I learned earlier today (October 23, 2024) that one of my
       co-workers (I use that term loosely as she is mostly remote and
       that our jobs do not overlap to any significant degree) is
       currently recovering from a Covid-19 infection. As far as I
       know, this is at least her second infection. She reported that
       this infection was far worse than her prior one. She did not
       know which variant infected her although I suspect it would be
       KP.3.1.1 as that is the current dominant strain nationally.
       My feelings about this incident are conflicted; Her attitudes
       towards Covid-19 historically have not been science-based.
       Yet I feel that I should share with others this example that
       Covid-19 infections are still happening. They are happening to
       someone near you; To someone that you know. The numbers featured
       on the daily Data Report YouTube videos and here on this message
       board are people and someone knows of these people.
       I have not reported on a number of people that I know or know of
       people who know other people that have been recently infected
       with Covid-19. Someone that I know socially knew someone who
       passed away because of Covid-19 about two months ago.
       Although I do not need to remind regular readers here but casual
       or new readers need to understand that Covid-19 infections are
       still happening even in the year 2024 and, so too, are the
       deaths from Covid-19 infections. Significant illness and deaths
       are not just happening to "older" people (people aged 65 and
       older) but to all adult age groups.
       If you would like, please share your experiences where you've
       known of others who have had Covid-19 infections. Obviously,
       don't share personal information that could compromise the
       privacy of yourself and others.
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       Re: People you know who have/had Covid...
       By: Masked Man Date: October 23, 2024, 6:58 pm
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       My significants other's cousin died from covid. He was an older
       gentleman and was having a procedure at the hospital where he
       contracted covid and then died sometime later. No doubt covid
       contributed to his death and suffering. The guy is dead so we
       don't have to worry about compromising his privacy... His name
       was Larry Curry. I don't have the name of the hospital where he
       contracted covid.
       Had my septic tank pumped out. Told the septic tank pumper in
       advance I'd be wearing a mask for covid when giving him
       directions. I hung around the yard and after the fellow got done
       pumping out the septic tank he asked me if I had covid and then
       he told me some story about how he had covid then went to the
       doctors with covid and caught pneumonia at the doctor's office
       and then almost died at the hospital where they told him he'd
       never walk again. I replied that's why I wear a mask. Then I
       thought to myself:To me its crazy to be an old  guy like that
       almost dying from covid and pneumonia and all the while pumping
       bile out of my septic tank totally maskless ... some people
       never learn the benefits of masking I suppose.
       Then when me and my immunocompromised loved one went to a family
       physician checkup we wore masks but half the staff there didn't
       ... we told everybody we were coming in our masks and the doctor
       didn't mask but we didn't see him. We saw the masked nurse
       practitioner who told us they lost a lot of patients because of
       covid. That's not anybody I know but when we got home we washed
       our clothes and hands before taking off our masks and jumped in
       the shower after that checkup that's for sure.
       Members of a church that my significant other used to visit and
       sing in the choir before the pandemic have gotten sick with
       covid. The minister's mother died of covid. I think the minister
       has been sick with covid twice. We don't go to church
       anymore..Thank God for that.
       From what I observe The people sick with covid get real
       uncommunicative and just sort of disappear at least for awhile.
       I don't think covid victims share much and I think they struggle
       after they get covid. They never seem healthier after covid and
       they always seem to be somewhat depressed from what I observe as
       a layperson those that survive covid always seem to have a
       decline in health and even cognitive faculties seem to lag
       vibrancy in some way. Another thing I find extremely alarming is
       that people who catch covid once often don't change their
       behavior whatsoever only to catch covid again and end up worse.
       That's just what I see and feel. I certainly remain steadfast in
       that I'd rather deal with the psychological repercussions(if
       any) from being somewhat isolated and wearing a mask than deal
       with any of the physical covid repercussions I have observed
       from afar.
       Perhaps others have more experience and encounters with people
       that have caught covid and I too would love to hear what others
       have observed since I am somewhat isolated from the general
       public and have relatively few dealings with people out in the
       public at all since 2020.
       .
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       Re: People you know who have/had Covid...
       By: Masked Man Date: November 25, 2024, 7:57 pm
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       I tell ya one thing that probably gets neglected and not talked
       about as much as public schools get monitored 'hellwise' ahem I
       mean healthwise are churches. Churches probably aren't monitored
       enough in so far as covid and diseases go..
       ..While I have no idea how many people got sick at the church we
       used to attend I do know the minister's mother died of covid and
       I believe the minister has been sick with covid twice. That's
       all I really know. Churches are a magnet for our older
       generation and there should be safety protocols in place to save
       these churches and the people who attended them. Perhaps
       churches that want to survive need to take a strong stance on
       Masks and strong online activities.
       Here's our Local church update (the church we personally quit
       when the pandemic began around 2020): before 2020 there were 120
       members of the church now after a succession of almost five
       years it being near late 2024 there is something like 30 members
       and 3 people left in the choir... a trio hopefully that wears
       masks.
       I dare say there should be an 11th commandment entitled don't
       make one another sicketh..wear a masketh and abideth by certain
       hygienic and space practices amongst ye seating areas for
       worship... Do not shaketh hands or hugeth one another in warm
       embrace in doorway upon entering and do not holdeth hands in
       circle to pray and don't touch your face under your mask without
       vigorous hand washing in private!
       I may be a simpleton but according to the Ten Commandments
       you're not supposed to hurt anybody or even yourself and making
       one another sick is hurtful to everybody and risking getting
       sick is somewhat suicidal if you think about it. Making one
       another sick is simply a sin. one could carry this even further
       and easily argue the case that we that wear masks might not just
       wear masks for health reasons but we also might wear safety
       masks for ethical, moral, and even religious reasons... I can
       speak for myself and maybe other maskers out there that we as
       maskers love God given life and we respect life here on earth. I
       as a masker obviously don't wanna get hurt and we don't wanna
       hurt anybody because of of the dangerous microscopic entities at
       play proven by the God given people who utilize electron
       microscopes. Anyway for what its worth, that's my little
       religious and scientific view.
       Why heck if you intentionally harm someone or make someone sick
       on purpose then that's a little like trying to murder somebody
       or at least hurt them. Disease and illness after all takes only
       second place to Death! Of course there's the Four Horsemen of
       the Apocalypse in the Old Testament's Book of Ezekiel they are
       sword, famine, wild beasts and pestilence or plague! Don't be a
       flying horseman of death or a wolf in sheep's clothing only to
       bring bring a pestilence and plague to your churches ye proud
       but hasty maskless! Anyway making another sick and getting sick
       is surely a sin because it's simply hurtful! You decide for
       yourselves but that's what I think.
       So far after five years of a pandemic and five years of
       observing society, observing the illness of people in politics
       as well as other walks of life, school statistics.. data from
       this forum, studies from abroad and scholarly medical papers
       being brought forward about covid and other emerging diseases
       such as bird flu, it is appearing that I am right that people at
       large are suffering and being unduly hurt by covid and other
       emerging diseases.
       Regardless of my zany unorthodox untraditional religious views
       there appear to be microscopic entities proved by electron
       microscopes to exist which are wreaking havoc on society and so
       called normal way of living since around 2020.You couldn't pay
       me to go to church much less board a cruiseship nor ride an
       enclosed elevator with any poor souls out there. For everyday
       studies seem to emerge proving covid and other diseases are
       proving a great threat to our species's lifestyles and very
       lives as time goes by.
       I am not a participant of church since 2020 but I can only
       suspect that over the last several years members of our local
       church were either getting sick or they fled for self
       preservation and good reason. This lack of church attendance is
       no doubt due to covid pandemic and probably lack of safety
       measures in place such as masks and spacing out of seats and
       there's probably no rules or code of conduct that reflect the
       current health crisis .. its a shame because these church people
       are good people with above average discipline often able to
       abide by certain self imposed rules and customs. Church people
       contribute a lot to society and so society loses a lot when they
       lose their local churches due to pandemic no doubt.
       I am sure this is a widespread problem for many churches due to
       the way the churches are traditionally set up such as their
       close encounters with one another.  The typical church age group
       is at risk however this is not limited to age as I don't buy the
       sometimes held belief  that covid and other diseases are only a
       problem for the elderly... I believe all age groups are prone
       to, suffer from and spread diseases alike such as covid.
       Anyway this may appear as a huge loss.. the loss of an
       incredible beautiful church and the companionship, the
       relationships and love and humanity that came from that church..
       it breaks our heart because that church gave so much to its
       community and helped so many people that it hurts to see no one
       could help it as it has dwindled…
       … on the other hand if the church didn’t  dwindle in number more
       people might get sick. Perhaps we should  be grateful church
       attendance has dwindled so fewer people risk getting sick!
       Regardless  I’d say ideally it would be best to have very small
       safe church with lots of safety protocols in place with a small
       attendance rather than an unsafe church too big for its
       britches. Quality is always to be preferred over quantity.
       Perhaps churches with small attendance and safety protocols
       drive away the masses which is a good thing.  I am inclined to
       think that churches everywhere should be in a state of reform so
       they are more likely to survive in the long haul. This goes for
       the pope as well! What good is a pope that keeps  drawing
       crowds, keeps kissing hands and keeps getting sick and keeps
       catching covid? Change thy ways churchgoers and change the ways
       of the church! Look what happened to our church the ministers
       mom died of covid and the minister has had covid at least twice
       and now the church is almost gone. Don't get the Masked Man
       started  but seniors defend ourselves! I'm 53 years old and I
       speed through the parking lots today masked on my bicycle and I
       see all these super old people all hobbling limping  into
       grocery store slow as molasses with no masks on.. they already
       look sick... its disgusting .. defend yourselves seniors with a
       mask!
       Correct me if I am wrong, but ever since I was a little kid I
       have always loved older people and thought to myself when I was
       really little (perhaps daydreaming in school) "You know if an
       older person didn't catch pneumonia, the flu or even the common
       cold they might actually live longer and pass away happier as
       well". Ive always just sort of known this. Correct me if this is
       a fallacy of thinking or if this is but a figment of my
       imagination that many older people stand a chance at living
       longer healthier happy lives without catching airborne
       diseases...
       ...therefore safety masks seem like a pretty cool thing to this
       old boy. My grandma lived to be 103 years old so I’m gonna try
       to break her record!
       ....would love to hear what others have observed since I am
       somewhat isolated from the general public and have relatively
       few dealings with people out in the public at all since 2020.
       There but for the grace of the mask go I,
       Saint Masked Man ;)
       .
       #Post#: 3604--------------------------------------------------
       Re: People you know who have/had Covid...
       By: Masked Man Date: May 7, 2025, 9:58 am
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       My dad who lives out of state said he and his girlfriend got
       covid a few months ago. My dad is about the same age as Santana.
       Dad said it was like a bad cold and didn't share any more...
       .. I am skeptical of just that dismissal and underestimation of
       what covid can do and does to the body. I remain steadfast in my
       preventative measures such as masking against airborne diseases.
       We just lost two uncles and although they aren't deemed covid
       related deaths one caught pneumonia while maybe having cancer
       and the other had throat cancer, its quite feasible covid could
       still play a hand in their deaths and covid can even play a hand
       in quality of medical care indirectly.
       I simply replied to my dad "I hope you continue to do well and I
       worry about the long term repercussions of covid”. I continue to
       mask and proceeded to write to him about my strategies even
       though we or he won't discuss it at length with me.
       I don't think it is wise to underestimate or write covid off as
       a cold because of the long term repercussions and community
       ramifications of it spreading to others and of course I fear for
       those that dismiss covid every season that passes.
       I am in the habit now of taking preventative measures such as
       masking so it is no accident that I haven't caught any airborne
       illnesses in over five years. "Once a habit is ingrained, it no
       longer requires conscious effort; the subconscious mind takes
       over, making it a seamless part of daily life".
       So for me it would actually be painful and indeed bizarre for me
       to break my habit of masking .. While I am in the habit of
       masking I mask for scientific reasoning based on what data and
       electron microscopes tell me is happening to people and the
       challenges they  face at large with microscopic entities
       globally. I mask based on scientific evidence and have developed
       a code of conduct and a way of living that is in harmony with my
       beliefs and observations and my own comfort levels with risks
       involved.
       I might add the habit of self-preservation via masks and
       preventative measures in these days of what I consider extra
       large population and high velocity  travel is easy because of
       habits and rituals and doesn't not 'feel' like an obsession.
       People are automatically obsessed over everything from their
       lawns to their cars and their looks in the mirror..so if we are
       going to obsess anyway why not obsess over a good cause or
       something that is good for us such as not catching illnesses?
       Seems a worthy endeavor to make it a daily attempt to not get
       sick especially for those who do get sick. Anyway I am adverse
       to  pain and illness and strife and I am attracted to long term
       pleasure. a feeling of lightness in the body, and general
       health. For me "Playing it safe" and taking the pains of
       preventative measures against illnesses means I get the most
       pleasures for the longest periods of time in this world.
       The Masked Man
       P.S. for me masking is a little akin to using hand tools rather
       than power tools with batteries that expire or expensive
       poisionios gasoline ... Hand tools just work better even if they
       are slower... nothing wrong with slow steady success... Masking
       leaves less of a carbon footprint in the ground than getting
       sick does.
       Much of my reasoning for masking boils down to three
       factors...1) To me we have never had so many people in the world
       2)We have never had so many people able shoot to and fro through
       the world at such a big velocity and rate of speed 3) I don't
       wanna sick because of 1 and 2.
       Today while in mask of course  I was mowing grass on my non gas
       self powered mower a neighbor stopped by on the street and
       offered me firewood. I picked up five or six loads of firewood
       in my wheelbarrow and he chatted here and there while keeping
       his distance.. I had my mask on whole time so that’s to show you
       the mask is not a hinderence in my life and I’ll be warm this
       winter! Then without taking off mask went for mile on bicycle
       all while listening to music with earbuds .. now I throw clothes
       in wash wash hands and face  ,drink half a gallon of water or
       so… take a shower  and eat lunch.. I’m as fit as a fiddle! In
       the past I’d do pretty much everything the same wouldn’t do
       anything different accept now I do it the very same thing with a
       mask.
       Furthermore we bake goods and stick a box of baked goods outside
       for a person who delivers us a box of veggies… so I received  a
       box of farmers market veggies today so later I mask up and
       retrieve that box and throw some water over the veggies before
       bringing the veggies in containers inside.. no big deal.. we
       wash our vegetables before eating them.. once again my mask is
       on and it is of no hindrance to me or my safe clean lifestyle :)
       I just tell you people about my lifestyle in mask to show that
       it’s not that much more complicated than being maskless.. mowing
       lawn makes sense in mask for a lot of people who have allergies
       .. being briefly around strangers seem smart to wear mask (who
       knows how many people have mingled with my neighbor)… it takes
       some extra time rinsing veggies outside in mask with bucket of
       water but I’ve got to throw away the big wax box and some
       baggies anyway so overall wearing a mask and working outside is
       not that time consuming and it is quite practical.. plus the
       masked man is overall safer! I don’t wear the mask outta fear or
       out of desperation.. I wear mask because I plan on not catching
       viruses. I wear a mask out of rational reasons and personal
       beliefs in science and data. It’s a rational decision on my part
       to wear a mask. I wear a mask because I’ve been wearing one for
       over 5 years now outside my home and it’s super awesome and it’s
       that awesome never getting sick. Overall I live a lot less in
       fear because I am in the habit of wearing my mask.
       .
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