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sdafdfas
By: Darvince Date: July 17, 2013, 3:54 pm
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i didn't want to lose this wonderful piece of literature
[glow=black,2,300][s]Ok, at first I thought this question was
"Why do you think what you did was wrong?" but then I realized
you made it phrased differently so I couldn't snack about how
there actually is no right or wrong in a sandbox game. I would
just flat out say that I think what I did was wrong according to
Minecraft, but it isn't, so I'm not going to say that. What I
did is wrong to you, who want to play on a server where
everything is built "legitimately". However, this calls into
question what legitimacy really is in survival Minecraft. To
most people, it involves not using cheats such as xray and
auto-digging bots or other things, but to you it involves more,
such as ignoring anything that can be done within the game but
can give you a unique advantage that others cannot get, such as
duplicating items before a region is reset, seeing diamonds in
an unloaded chunk due to lag, or eliminating fog in Optifine.
Although, in itself, resetting regions is even more unlegit than
the aforementioned things due to you having to exit the game and
use another program to do it. However, since this was righting a
wrong (shmoopy's griefing) you may feel it was okay, but I feel
it was as unlegit as the duplication of items, since Shmoopy put
you under a legit (no hacking or tricks or anything else)
disadvantage, you got yourself out of that with an unlegit
advantage. If this had happened to somewhere else, like Kaeshar,
would you have reverted it as well?[/s]
:-[ I feel if I went with the above I would get
permabanned[/glow]
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Re: sdafdfas
By: Tuto99 Date: July 17, 2013, 4:08 pm
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Bravo, bravo.
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Re: sdafdfas
By: atomic7732 Date: July 17, 2013, 6:13 pm
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the problem is it's not a pvp server and you're not supposed to
directly disadvantage people, because that is seen as "wrong",
most likely even to the people that do it
you know (i would hope) that bla doesn't like when people
duplicate items with the glitches that sometimes happen (like
the piston one) so why would taking something from a chunk that
will be reset be any more legit than the resetting itself,
considering what you removed will not be reset. how is
duplication in anyway more legit than just fixing something a
griefer (done obviously on purpose for the intent of grief) to
an original condition without putting in all the work over
again? it's not legit in a glitch, it shouldn't be legit when a
chunk is being fixed either.
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Re: sdafdfas
By: Mudkip Date: July 17, 2013, 6:35 pm
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Re: sdafdfas
By: Bla Date: September 19, 2013, 2:36 pm
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I will not ban you. But I think it is a bit disappointing to see
that you instead write
[quote]Honestly, I know that what I did was wrong according to
what you think, but it isn't officially in Blacraft rules. I
also feel that you should have been more questioning when I
asked for a permaban. I feel that duplicating items is giving
myself an unlegit advantage compared to other players, which is
Illegal on Blacraft.[/quote]
And than you then go elsewhere to argue the exact opposite, that
your advantage wasn't unlegit.
However, my question was, as you state, worded differently, and
was simply
[quote]What do you think about what you did?[/quote]
All I intended was to see what you think about your own actions,
to get an idea of how you would behave in the future. I still
don't think because of this that you will break the rules in the
future. But I object to calling it a wonderful piece of
literature when it is really simply rewording my question to a
strawman discussion of what is legit and unlegit, two vague and
hard to define concepts that I still think you can get a strong
sense of by using your intuition, when there was at least one
actual, much simpler rule that was broken - destroying
infrastructure built by others.
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Re: sdafdfas
By: Tuto99 Date: September 19, 2013, 9:54 pm
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Wait... THIS is still going on?
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Re: sdafdfas
By: atomic7732 Date: September 19, 2013, 10:20 pm
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no
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Re: sdafdfas
By: Darvince Date: September 19, 2013, 10:45 pm
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Well no, I won't be banned now, but then, I assumed you to be in
a more angry mood and I thought that I would remain permabanned
for saying something like that.
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