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       Doctor Who imdb board
       By: Winter_Is_Coming Date: July 5, 2013, 2:46 am
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       Jesus, what is up with that board? A lot of the Brits on there
       are just vicious to Americans. I don't deny that a lot of
       Americans are pretty contemptuous, but it's a bit ignorant to
       dislike an entire country just because its citizens happened to
       be born there.
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       Re: Doctor Who imdb board
       By: Salbob Date: July 6, 2013, 7:08 am
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       I'm not justifying them, because I think the way a lot of Brits
       on the imdb board act is appalling, but I think the logic behind
       it is a lot of people (myself included) have noticed a massive
       change in the show since it started being simul-broadcast on
       BBC1 and BBC America, and BBC America started getting loads of
       cool behind-the-scenes shows and things and they cancelled
       Confidential here (I don't know if you guys had that but it was
       a behind-the-scenes show per episode and it was really great).
       I think there is a real feeling that the showrunners have been
       trying to appeal more to the American demographic and a lot of
       people think it's changed the show for the worse, so I guess
       that makes a lot of the Brits on the imdb boards fairly bitter
       towards American viewers even though obviously it's not really
       their fault.
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       Re: Doctor Who imdb board
       By: Dr._Pants_The_Tech_Guy Date: July 6, 2013, 11:18 am
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       They cancelled Confidential? My dad always used to download
       those and Torchwood Declassified. That's kinda sad.
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       Re: Doctor Who imdb board
       By: kamikaze ginny Date: July 6, 2013, 3:16 pm
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       I'd have to agree that there's been a shift in the show since
       BBC America  started simulcasting, you can see the shift, it's
       more episodic and paletteable for an American audience which is
       really a shame since most Americans who watch Doctor Who watch
       it for what it is and don't need it dumbed down, amped up, sexed
       up, etc. I think even the run time was shortened a bit.
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       Re: Doctor Who imdb board
       By: Winter_Is_Coming Date: July 6, 2013, 5:53 pm
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       I liked how it was before, honestly. I don't like the darker
       tone at all. I'm really struggling to get through season 7, and
       it was hard to get through season 6 too.
       I can see them being a little upset that they supposedly changed
       the show for American audiences, but it's ridiculous to blame
       the Americans and treat them like shit. BBC makes the decisions,
       not us. However, I think it's more than just a feud about the
       show...they seem to dislike Americans because they really think
       they're better than us. They also seem to think the Americans on
       that board should "prove themselves" or something. There's this
       one American chick on there who seems to be trying way too hard
       to fit in, she's constantly bashing Americans too and even made
       an American-bashing signature, like she thinks that'll make her
       fit in better or something, which I just find kind of pathetic.
       Partly because I don't think "fitting in" is that important, and
       partly because they shouldn't make anyone feel that they have
       to.
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       Re: Doctor Who imdb board
       By: Salbob Date: July 6, 2013, 8:34 pm
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       [quote]I think even the run time was shortened a bit. [/quote]
       Yeah it's been set to standard-length 45 minutes now which just
       stinks of being made to fit with commercial breaks for the US
       because the BBC here doesn't have adverts (woo) and often there
       were variable lengths of episodes per season, some 50-60 minutes
       and some 45, along with no more two-parters.
       I just think it's mental because obviously the American audience
       like it for the style it was when they started watching it so
       dumbing it down seems a really unnecessary desperate attempt to
       draw in more audiences.
       [quote]they seem to dislike Americans because they really think
       they're better than us. [/quote]
       I won't deny there's often a generally hostile feeling to
       Americans from a lot of Brits (and I've encountered it from
       Aussies and Canadians) so I guess it could be that? I've not
       been on the Doctor Who boards in ages though because the fan
       theories all started to bore me and become too ludicrous, so I
       could be wrong about these people.
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       Re: Doctor Who imdb board
       By: Winter_Is_Coming Date: July 6, 2013, 9:34 pm
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       [quote]I won't deny there's often a generally hostile feeling to
       Americans from a lot of Brits[/quote]
       That's what makes me so nervous about traveling to England, or
       any other country, really. I really want to visit London
       someday, but I don't want to drop a few thousand dollars on a
       trip overseas, just to be treated like crap because I come from
       the States. I know not ALL Brits are like that, but I've heard
       some horror stories, and it makes me hesitant. I would never
       treat a tourist from another country badly, but Americans are
       generally disliked in other countries and I don't know how I'd
       be treated.
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       Re: Doctor Who imdb board
       By: Salbob Date: July 7, 2013, 6:36 am
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       American tourists have a pretty bad rep, but generally from my
       experience of everywhere I've traveled and when I worked the
       Olympics, the Americans that act like decent people are treated
       decently - the ones that are the 'stereotypical' American
       tourist (loud, seem rude, only speak English in non-English
       speaking countries etc.) get a worse experience, but that's
       really true with any tourist from anywhere, I just think it's a
       stereotype that a lot of people associate with people from the
       US.
       I mean, Kelsey lived here and she got on fine, and she's
       traveled around Europe too, basically if you're a decent person
       you've got nothing to worry about, but I think because we're a
       fairly bitter and self-deprecating nation there's a lot of
       people who just like to be angry and stereotypical tourists make
       easy targets :/
       (there's also a much greater social context for feelings of
       resentment to the US because of our government's relationship
       with yours, but that's way too lengthy to get into)
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