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New Star Trek Into Darkness Trailer
By: FurySerenity Date: April 16, 2013, 12:49 pm
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New trailer.
HTML http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ec_rPApKCA
Epic... emotional.... chills!!! Wow... I am stunned...
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Re: New Star Trek Into Darkness Trailer
By: Enterprising Young Man Date: April 16, 2013, 1:06 pm
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I think it looks a lot better than the last film but still not
really "Star Trek," but never mind. I'll be there in IMAX,
opening weekend. Let's hope it doesn't disappoint.
The other thing is, I hope at some point in the future we get a
Star Trek film that has no real villain.
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Re: New Star Trek Into Darkness Trailer
By: Russie Stover Date: April 16, 2013, 2:24 pm
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I am not a really big Trekie, but what does it still not feel
like Star Trek?
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Re: New Star Trek Into Darkness Trailer
By: Enterprising Young Man Date: April 17, 2013, 1:40 am
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Well, the generic response you'll get is "too much action," and
that is true enough I think, but let's look at it a bit further:
The thing is, and what mainly differentiated Trek from something
like Star Wars was, Star Trek was as much about exploring the
outer boundaries of space as it was about exploring the inner
depths of humankind. The Original Series and The Next
Generation, the best episodes from their respective shows (and
sometimes even the worst episodes) were based on moral
quandaries, philosophical debate, and how the crew of the
Enterprise would try to resolve them. While the Original Series
never had much time for some of its secondary characters (like
Uhura for example), it never failed in creating an interesting
dynamic between the "trio" - Kirk, Spock, and McCoy.
Now that's about the TV show. Look at the very first movie, "The
Motion Picture" (1979) - it was based entirely on charting the
unknown, it had very little to no action whatsoever, and though
it seemingly had a "villain," even that at the end turned into
something else entirely. I don't think it's a good movie (but I
don't think it's bad either), but you can see, they could have
gone for something more action oriented since it was the first
movie and all, but didn't. The second movie, "Wrath of Khan" had
more in terms of action, an actual villain, and what have you -
but it was also absolutely very much about Kirk and Spock, and
their friendship. It also had a "charting the unknown" plot with
the whole "Genesis" deal.
When it comes to the 2009 film, and people (myself included)
complain that it lacked character development, the defense
usually seems to be "how can a two hour movie have character
development equivalent of the thousands of hours of the TV show
and movies previously?" While that may be true, it's obviously a
ridiculous statement because it ignores the fact that two-hour
movies have, in fact, had character development. Again, my
complaint isn't that the 2009 film should have had that much of
character development, I'm saying it has none. It has character
"moments" that seem to substitute for it (and some can be
especially left-field like in the way the Uhura and Spock
romance begins out of nowhere). Not just that, I think "Wrath of
Khan" functions very well as an independent movie - you don't
have to see the other films to really get with this film. It
develops the main characters and the villain and everything else
enough that you don't feel lost and so Spock's sacrifice at the
end still carries some weight.
The 2009 film replaces all of this with generic space opera -
lots of loud, colorful action, you get to see semi-naked girls
at one point, there's a villain hell bent on revenge, lots of
destruction, the whole nine yards. Now the new film, from the
trailers what I see is that the loud and colorful action seems
to have been dialed up, you get to see a semi-naked girl at one
point, there's a villain hell bent on revenge... wait, this is
just rinse and repeat isn't it? Except now it has the added
twist that has become commonplace nowadays that for a movie to
be serious it has to be "dark" (with a stupid title to boot) -
why? Well, because, Master Nolan says so! The last few trailers
also seem to be elevating Kirk now to some sort of epic action
hero status ("a hero will rise" said one of the trailers). There
was very little moralizing and philosophizing in the 2009 film,
and while I hope this film will have a little more of it, I'm
afraid at the end of the day that my faith in Abrams will prove
to have been misplaced.
It's too bad that these are the films that have made moviegoers
(non-Trekkies especially) interested in Star Trek again,
although if most of them seek out the older films and the TV
show, then it won't entirely have been a waste.
I will still be watching the new film though, because as a
sci-fi action film, it looks like it could be an entertaining
movie, but Star Trek it is not.
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