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Suffers from sticking too close to the book
By: Aussie50 Date: September 2, 2011, 12:42 pm
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This is the problem I have now with the first two films, they
were too close to the books.
They didn't take any liberties with the story, and thus we have
two fairly shallow adaptations. They are obviously well-made,
with huge sets, big special effects and they did an amazing job
at choosing the cast, but they are just too damn (I can't think
of the word - bland?).
Thank god for nostalgia, the only reason I feel the need to
rewatch these two.
So yeah, this is the first post on this part of the
board...exciting huh.
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Re: Suffers from sticking too close to the book
By: kamikaze ginny Date: September 2, 2011, 1:00 pm
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Definitely agree. I once had a conversation with someone about
how technically they could have even removed the Polyjuice
Potion subplot and still the movie would have worked. If you
think about it we waste probably a good 20-30 minutes talking
about the Polyjuice Potion and making it and yadda yadda yadda
... they could have easily discovered Malfoy wasn't the heir
another way.
I think the only canon parts that were cut from the final film
were the Death Day Party and The Singing Valentine. It actually
takes me less time to read the book than watch the movie.
CoS and PS definitely both suffer from being TOO canon, but at
least PS has a bit of magic to it. It doesn't feel as dead as
CoS and I honestly feel that after the initial success of PS
they rushed production on CoS to keep the ball rolling, and as a
result the movie suffered.
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Re: Suffers from sticking too close to the book
By: Aussie50 Date: September 2, 2011, 1:14 pm
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Hmm that's actually right about the Polyjuice Potion, never
thought about that.
I actually enjoy this part even though it is pointless to the
overall plot, it has one of my favourite unintentional jokes
when Ron and Hermione both take a sip of the actual potion and
then immediately drop their cups before running into the
toilets, whereas Harry's just happily taking a few big swigs
haha then he notices the others have left and proceeds to drop
the cup in "disgust".
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Re: Suffers from sticking too close to the book
By: kamikaze ginny Date: September 2, 2011, 1:30 pm
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Ha! He was eating cold mushy canned soup all summer (until we
went to the Burrow) it was probably a welcomed change! :P
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Re: Suffers from sticking too close to the book
By: StealYellowMen Date: September 3, 2011, 4:50 pm
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That's a good point about the polyjuice potion. But I simply
love that one line Malfoy has: "I didn't know you can read."
#Post#: 4337--------------------------------------------------
Re: Suffers from sticking too close to the book
By: VolguusZildrohar Date: September 3, 2011, 8:08 pm
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Yeah, compared to the other films, Chamber of Secrets is kind
of...dead. It seems like they were so focused on getting
everything from the book in that the visual effects, emotions,
even the score were put on the back burner. The film really
suffered from it, and it's really obvious. The first film is
much the same, but at least it has the excuses of being the
first one, lack of experience, testing the waters, etc. Plus,
they literally had the premiere of SS and went right into
Chamber three days later.
I think this is one of the reasons why I love the later films
because some of my favorite scenes were ones that weren't in the
book. Contrary to popular opinion, I actually really like the
Burrow attack in HBP. I've heard a lot of people say that it was
pointless because the Death Eaters come, attack, and leave
without inflicting any physical harm to anyone. But I've always
thought it made a lot of sense because it shows how the Death
Eaters work. They want to make their victims paranoid and always
looking over their shoulders, not knowing when they're going to
be targeted (or if they're targeted). I've always felt they went
to the Burrow, not to kill or harm, but to mess with the
Weasleys. I mean, yeah it doesn't work logically in the book
because of the protection put around the Burrow, but that wasn't
established in the film so it DOES work logically. Or maybe it's
just me. Ha ha.
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Re: Suffers from sticking too close to the book
By: FluteLine24 Date: September 3, 2011, 11:33 pm
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[quote author=VolguusZildrohar link=topic=401.msg4337#msg4337
date=1315098488]
I think this is one of the reasons why I love the later films
because some of my favorite scenes were ones that weren't in the
book. Contrary to popular opinion, I actually really like the
Burrow attack in HBP. I've heard a lot of people say that it was
pointless because the Death Eaters come, attack, and leave
without inflicting any physical harm to anyone. But I've always
thought it made a lot of sense because it shows how the Death
Eaters work. They want to make their victims paranoid and always
looking over their shoulders, not knowing when they're going to
be targeted (or if they're targeted). I've always felt they went
to the Burrow, not to kill or harm, but to mess with the
Weasleys. I mean, yeah it doesn't work logically in the book
because of the protection put around the Burrow, but that wasn't
established in the film so it DOES work logically. Or maybe it's
just me. Ha ha.
[/quote]
COMPLETELY agree. They had to do something in order to
compensate for the lack of a fight at the very end, like OotP,
DHI and DHII all ended with, and I think that attacking
something that is near and dear to Harry, and a well known
blood-traitor family like the Weasley's was absolutely perfect.
The point of attacking The Burrow, in my opinion, was to show
that this was a war, and that nowhere was safe. It really was
the start of Harry's childhood ending- and it actually hitting
him. The war was real, it was happening, and the Death Eaters
weren't going to not attack the Weasley's just because Harry
didn't want them to.
#Post#: 6423--------------------------------------------------
Re: Suffers from sticking too close to the book
By: HarryFreakingPotter Date: September 10, 2011, 8:59 am
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I don't think it's a closeness to the book that kills the film.
Honestly, the first one did as well and there is a very magical,
whimsical tone and much is forgiven when your cast is so
adorable.....but it was still a good film regardless. CoS is
just a BAD film. The script was weak, the acting was even weaker
(I was cringing at Alan Rickman. ALAN FUCKING RICKMAN, MAN), the
cinematography could have been done better by a high school film
class student, and to top it all off, there was not NEAR enough
focus on Ginny and her odd behavior. I have my issues with the
other films (most of which come down to adaptation) but this
film had a half decent adaptation that was executed very poorly.
#Post#: 6811--------------------------------------------------
Re: Suffers from sticking too close to the book
By: The Dude Date: September 12, 2011, 12:06 pm
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I may be alone in this, but I feel that COS is the best HP movie
yet. Call me a purist, but I feel that it as well PS did the
story justice. All the later ones went for more style rather
than substance. Only the DH duology, from the later ones, were
faithful to source material (that's probably because they were
split.).
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Re: Suffers from sticking too close to the book
By: mrcase Date: September 24, 2011, 4:54 pm
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Yeah, COS and DH1 are in tight competition for last favorite
film of the series for me. But...I'm not completely sure that
they could have cut the polyjuice part, even it unintentionally
a good thing. It would have made things awkward in GOF and DH1
since it was used so heavily. They might could have shortened
that up, though.
I think the thing that got me was that the second film felt too
much like a rehash of the first one.
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