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What does the HG's success mean for Potter?
By: kamikaze ginny Date: March 25, 2012, 1:59 pm
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I don't mean in the sense that it could knock (and already has
knocked) some of the HP films' opening weekend records... I mean
it like, I didn't expect another franchise to swoop in so
quickly after Potter. It hasn't even been a year since DH II's
release and we've already got "the next big thing".
Twilight's been fading into the background for a while now, and
honestly never had a chance at eclipsing (lol) Potter, but if
the first HG's movie can come in at number three for opening
weekend numbers then what can the remaining two (or three) do?
The HP fandom is never going to disappear, I think it'll be like
Star Wars in a sense, but it kind of makes me nostalgic? upset?
bitter? as a longtime HP fan to see this other series come in
less than a year later and be so successful. It appeals to the
same audience though so I'm not sure if people are just looking
for a fix.
:-\
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Re: What does the HG's success mean for Potter?
By: StealYellowMen Date: March 25, 2012, 2:30 pm
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I don't think it means much. I've said this before that I feel
like a lot of The Hunger Games fandom is looking to fill a giant
gaping HP shaped hole in their hearts. And this series touches
on some of that. It will in no way be as big or long lasting as
HP, IMO. Its a passing fancy. I think in ten years you'll still
have your HP devotees but not necessarily your Hunger Games
ones.
I already know a lot of middle schools are reading THG in
classes. And I can see it becoming one of those sorts of books.
Like The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe or other such books
that are often assigned and read in class together. So I think
it'll be around longer than say Twilight. But I dont think the
hardcore fandom will last as long as HP. HP doesnt need to be
assigned in classrooms because parents are going to pass it to
their kids and its going to become something similar to Star
Wars (like you said). It has its own amusement park, plans for a
second, and a giant studio tour. That trumps everything.
Movies are always going to outdo each other. Its bottling
lightening and appealing to audiences. I wouldn't take the box
office to heart too much. The numbers were no where near DH2.
And future THG installments arent the only threat to those
records. I'd keep my eye on The Dark Knight Rises as well. But
this is just looking at individual films. If you look at it all
in terms of a series or franchise, The Hunger Games can't touch
Harry Potter.
I actually think most Hunger Games fans will agree with this.
One is the love of your life and the other is a fling that may
mean something, but will never compare.
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Re: What does the HG's success mean for Potter?
By: kamikaze ginny Date: March 25, 2012, 2:33 pm
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So in relationship terms it's kind of like our husband died and
now we need some kind of intimacy so we're doing the Hunger
Games so we won't be forever alone. :'(
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Re: What does the HG's success mean for Potter?
By: Hermes_The_Exile Date: March 25, 2012, 2:38 pm
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I agree with Dana. I'm actually glad to see something that's not
Twilight doing so well. And it's not competing directly with HP
at this point, so I'm not fussed if it does really well.
Sorcerer's Stone would open huge too if it were first released
today.
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Re: What does the HG's success mean for Potter?
By: kamikaze ginny Date: March 25, 2012, 2:42 pm
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See, it's not like I think The Hunger Games is anywhere near as
good as HP, but it's lightyears better than Twilight, and it
kind of sucks seeing a franchise that plays to the same
demographic come in soon.
I figured we'd have a few years grace period before we had
something so similar be so succesful (in the target audience
anyway).
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Re: What does the HG's success mean for Potter?
By: Loony_Gaby Date: March 25, 2012, 2:53 pm
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I don't mind the success, I think it deserves it, unlike
Twiblah.
And it's still going to be 3/4 films vs. 8 films and 10 years.
I liked The Hunger Games books but I didn't love them as much as
the HP books. Nothing will ever compare.
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Re: What does the HG's success mean for Potter?
By: StealYellowMen Date: March 25, 2012, 3:14 pm
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Dayna I get where you're coming from. Its almost a slight to the
HP fandom. Like the body isn't even cold yet and audiences are
already moving on to something new.
And even in my personal life. My mom read the HP books last year
and enjoyed them. But for some reason she devoured The Hunger
Games books and started a reread. And I keep shaking my head. I
can't help but be slightly...offended (I guess is the word I'm
looking for). Like she did something wrong. I ask, "what the
fuck is wrong with you! How can you seemingly enjoy this more
than HP?" But then again, my mom doesn't understand nuance. So I
shouldn't be surprised. Anyway, its like a minor example of
whats happening on a grander scale with movie goers.
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Re: What does the HG's success mean for Potter?
By: YouBetcha Date: March 25, 2012, 3:26 pm
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I think mass audiences just really like franchises (especially
ones that come from books or comics). I don't think it's a big
deal and don't see the point of turning THG into a competition
with HP just because they both pander to young adult audiences.
There's enough space for both of them to coexist peacefully (if
the fans will let them). :P
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Re: What does the HG's success mean for Potter?
By: kamikaze ginny Date: March 25, 2012, 3:38 pm
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Oh, I don't want people to think that I didn't like the Hunger
Games (because I found the series entertaining and the movie
entertaining), I just think you can't help but compare
franchises.
I'm not talking about it in the sense of competition I'm talking
about it in the sense that they're franchises based on
successful books that are being very well received by the
public. They play to the same demographic, it's only natural to
say lets look at both side by side.
And I know it's to be expected that a fantasy franchise was
going to have to fill that HP void but I expected a few attempts
at franchises and failures before one actually hit big. I mean
why The Hunger Games? Why didn't the Narnia series really take
off or Percy Jackson or His Dark Materials? I think you have to
give a lot of credit to the marketing team over at Summit.
It's just really interesting to see this all happening, and as
an HP fan I kind of wonder who the hardcores are; once the dust
settles who is still hanging around.
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Re: What does the HG's success mean for Potter?
By: FluteLine24 Date: March 25, 2012, 9:29 pm
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I don't think hardcore fans are going anywhere. Each fandom has
their drifters, the fans that will only watch the movies and
refuse to read the books, or ones that find something 'okay',
but drift onto the next big thing when something like Potter,
Twilight, or THG comes out, but all fandom also has their
hardcore fans. Especially Potter, because a lot of fans
literally grew up with the books. That makes Potter stand out
from the rest of the 'big things' nowadays.
Harry Potter was a part of a massive amount of people's
childhoods. The others weren't.
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