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Why this is my least-favorite of the books
By: Hermes_The_Exile Date: August 26, 2011, 1:31 pm
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I wouldn't say that CoS has "plot holes," so much as "logic
holes."
1. The school is 1,000 years old. Did they have fully modern,
functional bathrooms then? If not, wouldn't they notice the
hole in the ground when they installed the sink?
2. How did a huge basilisk move through normal-sized pipes and
get out of sight in a normal hallways?
3. It looks like Lucius gave Ginny the diary impulsively and had
no idea what it "really" was. So how did Dobby know about some
sinister plan and to warn Harry? What was Lucius planning? Was
he planning to give the diary to someone, or what?
4. Did no one in Ginny's dorm, any of her teachers or any of her
four brothers notice her odd behavior at all?
5. Did no one notice that the sink had never worked? No one
tried to perform, I dunno, maintenance?
6. Who left the snake icon on the faucet? Why would the heir of
Slytherin even need an icon?
7. They know Myrtle died in the bathroom, and that that's the
last time the Chamber was opened. Wouldn't someone have thought
to, I dunno, look in the bathroom where she died?
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Re: Why this is my least-favorite of the books
By: kamikaze ginny Date: August 26, 2011, 5:18 pm
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I always liked CoS the best. I think, even with the plot holes,
the structure of the story always appealed to me the most. It
was very fairytale-esque, with Harry pulling the sword from the
[s]stone[/s] hat to defeat the [s]dragon[/s] basilisk and save
the [s]princess[/s] first Weasley girl in several generations.
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Re: Why this is my least-favorite of the books
By: Hermes_The_Exile Date: August 26, 2011, 5:42 pm
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You're such a romantic, Dayna.
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Re: Why this is my least-favorite of the books
By: kamikaze ginny Date: August 27, 2011, 12:29 am
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[glow=red,2,300]HARRY AND GINNY FOREVAH <3[/glow]
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Re: Why this is my least-favorite of the books
By: Eva Date: August 29, 2011, 9:11 pm
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When I was younger, before I noticed the logic holes COS was my
favourite. The only thing I ever wondered about was how the
Basilisk looked people in the eye from inside the pipe. But I
still love it. I found it genuinely suspenseful, and I even once
had a nightmare about being in the Chamber of Secrets with the
Basilisk.
Also, it has Lucius Malfoy in it and I am a total Lucius Malfoy
fangirl.
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Re: Why this is my least-favorite of the books
By: magic_is_might Date: August 30, 2011, 1:58 pm
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Agreed.
Even when I was younger, I was confused about some of these
logic holes. How was a big snake petrifying people from the
pipes? Where was it entering/leaving the pipes? How did no one
seen a huge basilisk? I just though I was over-analyzing it or
missing something.
I like the book because a lot happens, but it's not Jo's
strongest writing when it comes to the plot.
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Re: Why this is my least-favorite of the books
By: diamondthunder Date: September 3, 2011, 11:14 pm
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The logic holes bothered me when I was a kid and they bother me
even more now, but I still love it.
But some of the holes the OP mentioned can be explained, sort
of.
1. Presumably there's some sort of enchantment that would
prevent anyone who couldn't speak Parseltongue from stumbling
across it. Therefore I assume a 'normal' person taking the sink
apart/installing it wouldn't be able to see the entrance, as if
it were Fideliused. Or something.
2. I think some people overestimate the size of the Basilisk.
The Basilisk in the movie seems to be quite a bit bigger than it
is described in the book. The book describes it as 'as thick as
an oak trunk.' I think it's plausible that pipes in a huge
castle built for hundreds of people could be that thick. And
snakes can compress a lot. Of course, that doesn't explain how
it could slither around the corridors all year and only ever run
into one or two people at a time.
3. Can't argue with that. Though I'd hazard a guess that he
didn't have much of a plan going, he just hoped it'd work out.
4. Agree. But... It was her first year, so her
teachers/classmates wouldn't have know of any prior behaviour to
think that she was acting weird. And Harry noticed she was
acting weird about three or four times but didn't really pay
much attention. Presumably Ron and the Twins did the same, and
Percy was just too busy with his studying and his secret
girlfriend to pay attention.
5. Same as 1.
6. Well, clearly Salazar picked the serpent motif for Slytherin
House. Why wouldn't he want it on the entrance to his Chamber?
7. Now that one definitely cannot be explained away or argued
with. I guess we just have to suspend our disbelief and
acknowledge that the wizarding world is extraordinarily shoddy
at dealing with things like legal matters and investigations. If
they weren't, it would have been discovered that Tom Riddle
framed Hagrid right then and there and we'd have no story.
The other huge problem I see, is the fact the Dumbles,
supposedly the greatest, smartest wizard ever, either didn't try
or was unable to solve the problem of a monster loose in his
school. Three 12 year olds did.
Another one, is the fact that Lucius' plan actually worked
pretty well. His plan was to make sure Ginny was blamed for
opening the Chamber. Her only defence is that the diary made
her. But the diary was destroyed. With no way of demonstrating
how it worked, she would have had no way to prove that she
didn't open the Chamber of her own free will. Therefore....how
exactly, did Lucius lose? His plan pretty much worked, no one
could prove he'd given her the diary... and yet he concedes
defeat. :-\
But despite that, I still love it, because I like the structure
and the mystery of the plot.
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Re: Why this is my least-favorite of the books
By: Nep Date: September 4, 2011, 8:30 pm
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"A WIZARD DID IT."
"But--"
"WIZARD!"
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