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#Post#: 6528--------------------------------------------------
basic pillar drills
By: Tinworm Date: April 25, 2022, 2:03 pm
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My pillar drill has served me well these last twenty or so
years, but it is a hobbyist type job, bought in Aldi. 500W motor
and 1.5-16mm chuck, so versatile, with easily changed gearing
belts etc. Basic but useful. But its electrics are temperamental
and its bearings wobble etc, so I want to treat myself to a new
one.
This will not be a posh engineering machine, just a decent basic
one. I have been looking at Clarke pillar drills on Machine Mart
and think something like that for £100-£200 would do it. But
just wanted to know, if that was your budget, what would you
get? What experience do you have of that type of budget drill
and what machine might you recommend?
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Re: basic pillar drills
By: David F-R Date: April 26, 2022, 8:02 am
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Much depends on whether you want a bench mounted drill press or
a floor standing pillar drill.
The Clarke floor standing start at £357.
Personally, I'd go for second hand industrial quality - you'd
get a geared back-gear for slow speeds (big holes), Morse taper
chuck (for larger drill bits) and, with luck, a geared rise and
fall (to take the strain off your back).
I've got a Union Pillar drill ex-school, £50 though it's 3
phase. Goes through anything! Bl**dy heavy!
If you want new, I suggest you have a look at SCHEPPACH DP16SL
£210 from Screwfix and Toolstation but get yourself a decent
machine vice too. Ebay has some good ones on at the moment but
you'd have to travel to collect
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Hope that helps.
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Re: basic pillar drills
By: Tinworm Date: April 26, 2022, 3:11 pm
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Thanks very much, Dave. All of those are a long way from me, but
thanks for the recommendations. The Scheppach looks interesting.
Cheers
This back gear business is a new one on me. Looks like I need to
get Googling
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Re: basic pillar drills
By: David F-R Date: April 26, 2022, 6:02 pm
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[quote author=Tinworm link=topic=855.msg6544#msg6544
date=1651003901]
This back gear business is a new one on me. Looks like I need to
get Googling
[/quote]
I refer to it as 'backgear' because it does what a backgear on a
lathe does, namely provide a low speed selection.
I'm sure that there is another name for it, just lost in brain
fog at the moment.
Mine ranges from around 2000rpm to 80rpm (from memory).
Many 8 and 10 speed machines rely on multiple belts and pulley
cones and they're a pain to change.
With 'backgear' you can drill your pilot hole at normal, flick
over the lever and drill a big hole at slow. I rarely mess with
the pulleys.
I'll try to post some pics in the morning to show you speed
ranges etc.
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Re: basic pillar drills
By: Tinworm Date: April 27, 2022, 4:19 am
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ah, I see. Thanks for explaining, David. I have always changed
gear with changing pulleys. Doesn't take an awful lot of time,
unless you are a professional under pressure.
Your 80rpm is luxuriously slow!
I found one old drill near me, which may need parts, but looks
promising, not least of all because I wouldn't have to go far to
get it (though the seller doesn't know much about it). Failing
that, I may go for the Scheppach.
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Re: basic pillar drills
By: David F-R Date: April 27, 2022, 4:24 am
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This shows the speed range, and the lever that operates the gear
change with the depth setting.
I also have a foot stop switch - very handy, extra safety.
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Re: basic pillar drills
By: Tinworm Date: April 28, 2022, 6:53 pm
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[quote author=David F-R link=topic=855.msg6549#msg6549
date=1651051491]
This shows the speed range, and the lever that operates the gear
change with the depth setting.
I also have a foot stop switch - very handy, extra safety.
[/quote]
gosh, that is a lot more impressive than anything on the machine
I am bidding on.
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Re: basic pillar drills
By: Tinworm Date: May 1, 2022, 7:10 am
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I just bought a classic drill. Nothing as flashy, spec-wise, as
yours, David, but a good , solid job. Goodness knows how old
-possibly 1940s or 50s. Good working order. smooth bearings etc.
Brand new chuck, though. Bloomin' heavy, so yet been able to
collect it, but have been to see it. Photos to follow.
#Post#: 6587--------------------------------------------------
Re: basic pillar drills
By: David F-R Date: May 2, 2022, 3:55 am
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[quote author=Tinworm link=topic=855.msg6582#msg6582
date=1651407020]
I just bought a classic drill. Nothing as flashy, spec-wise, as
yours, David, but a good , solid job. Goodness knows how old
-possibly 1940s or 50s. Good working order. smooth bearings etc.
Brand new chuck, though. Bloomin' heavy, so yet been able to
collect it, but have been to see it. Photos to follow.
[/quote]
Good for you. Heavy is good. And from experience (1948 was an
excellent year for 'things' ;) ) older machines can give very
good service.
Look forward to seeing some photos.
Picked up my 1970's metal cutting bandsaw on Saturday. Needs a
fettle but is is identical to new ones.
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