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Re: New Chassis & Components for Production - Please registe
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By: David F-R Date: March 20, 2022, 5:08 pm
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'A gentle reminder that we aim to be inclusive and welcoming.'
Thank you Stefan. I've got the message.
I will be inclusive and welcoming, and supportive in any way I
can, whilst remembering the quote from our building guide -
'CycleKarts are compact, lightweight, sports machines, styled to
resemble pre-war racing cars.
They are home made by their drivers for the pursuit of classic
motoring sporting
excitement. They are not built to be serious race machines or
show cars but purely for the
personal satisfaction and fun of driving a machine you've built
yourself.'
I'd even do a bit of welding for someone but I draw the line at
buying the tube, cutting it to length and angle and welding it.
I'm also working on a design with an all wood chassis and a
plywood/softwood monocoque body screwed and glued to the chassis
- 'Look Mum - no welding'. The front axle is still an issue -
still working out how to make one without welding or
'engineering' skills.
#Post#: 6105--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Chassis & Components for Production - Please registe
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By: Adrian Date: March 21, 2022, 8:18 am
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Do have a read of the Build guide. You will find lots of info in
there.
:>)
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Re: New Chassis & Components for Production - Please registe
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By: RhysN Date: March 22, 2022, 2:55 am
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Soapboxes are a great source of raw material for your cyclekart.
Stefan, I think you have the words at each end of this
transposed :)
#Post#: 6113--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Chassis & Components for Production - Please registe
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By: TheGiantTribble Date: March 22, 2022, 4:02 am
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Right now everyone has got off their soapbox's, back to the
original question.
For myself it would be nice to have available 'in house'
Hubs, Axles, Wheels.
#Post#: 6115--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Chassis & Components for Production - Please registe
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By: RhysN Date: March 22, 2022, 4:24 am
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[quote author=TheGiantTribble link=topic=787.msg6113#msg6113
date=1647939747]
Right now everyone has got off their soapbox's, back to the
original question.
For myself it would be nice to have available 'in house'
Hubs, Axles, Wheels.
[/quote]
I sort of agree. Sort of, because all of those are commercially
available, USUALLY. If they were a "club merchandise" item how
is that to be funded?
If they are available from suppliers, then the club has no need
to be involved? Just a listing on the "Where to get stuff" and I
personally prefer to see multiple suppliers.
Even springs (which would be the top of my list) is not really
a "one size fit's all".
#Post#: 6116--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Chassis & Components for Production - Please registe
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By: David F-R Date: March 22, 2022, 4:30 am
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[quote author=TheGiantTribble link=topic=787.msg6113#msg6113
date=1647939747]
Right now everyone has got off their soapbox's, back to the
original question.
[/quote]
Sorry about that Bill.
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Re: New Chassis & Components for Production - Please registe
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By: synthpunk Date: March 22, 2022, 7:14 pm
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[quote author=David F-R link=topic=787.msg6103#msg6103
date=1647814117
I'm also working on a design with an all wood chassis and a
plywood/softwood monocoque body screwed and glued to the chassis
- 'Look Mum - no welding'. The front axle is still an issue -
still working out how to make one without welding or
'engineering' skills.
[/quote]
Yay wood!
That basically describes my riley build. I bought my welded
front axle from Gemini, because it’s available… But I’d also say
mine is unibody rather than monocoque because the chassis rails
are incorporated into the overall structure. Ive been working
along the lines of a ‘no critical joints’ philosophy, where
there are no single points of failure (as there might be on a
true monocoque, say if a corner split..) so everything is built
of torsion boxes, bonded to other torsion boxes, which all goes
into making one big, curvy, hopefully strong, 3D, car shaped
object. I filled the void spaces in the torsion boxes with
closed cell fireproof expanding foam, mostly for stopping water
ingress and subsequent rot, but also because why not?
Maybe we should start a new thread on wooden CKs, and various
design strategies…. I know if I built my Riley again with the
benefit of hindsight it would basically be the same but with a
couple of major refinements. And involve more jigs. And less
fibreglass. And maybe more marine ply. I dunno if they’d make it
much faster, safer of long lived but they’d make life easier…
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Re: New Chassis & Components for Production - Please registe
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By: synthpunk Date: March 22, 2022, 7:22 pm
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A club pdf on wooden chassis with maybe a couple different print
out able patterns to stick to sheets of 8X4 6mm ply would
probably be an even more democratic chassis… laser cut it if you
can, or print it on multiple sheets of A4, stick it to the ply
and then jigsaw and router it like I did. If you can use a
router then making a master pattern simplifies everything
considerably…
#Post#: 6135--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Chassis & Components for Production - Please registe
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By: Andy_B Date: March 24, 2022, 5:14 am
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Right then chaps - Lets get this back on track (thanks Bill for
also trying to get this back to the original train of thought)
It was pretty simple - with nearly 300 people on this forum we
currently only have a regular (10 -14) people who attend events
for whatever reason. As a club has been formed we don't want to
spend countless hours defining, discussing and planning events
for the whole year if the club is not going to encourage new
folks from all walks of life to join in, this is simply not
sustainable. This was supposed to be a simple exercise to gage
an interest from people who may not comment regularly on the
forum and see what people feel they may require to be able join
in or start their build.
For those who don't currently have a cyclekart that is "track
worthy" but are building etc, I guarantee you will spend a whole
season working out how and why it doesn't drive that great and
all the things you want to change so you are happy - not to
mention the ever evolving styling and upgrades that you only do
and know once you are using it, so buying some components is not
a big deal, the only thing it does in my opinion is ensure that
some of the structural elements of these "home built" machines
are up to the actual job, as they do take a beating and need to
be safe or this whole hobby has issues.
So, positive comments please, these are all just ideas at the
moment and may never happen and remember it is part of something
much bigger, not just about slapping some cash down at all.
Also, for those who have not attended an event or seen these in
person, try and visit one of the events this year, see them in
action and see if it's right for you!!! a lot of people have
come along and some have decided its not for them, but they
still wish to own or build one, two very different outlooks on
the hobby.
Cheers Andy
#Post#: 6136--------------------------------------------------
Re: New Chassis & Components for Production - Please registe
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By: David F-R Date: March 24, 2022, 6:01 am
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Fair comment.
However, 'For those who don't currently have a cyclekart that is
"track worthy" but are building etc, I guarantee you will spend
a whole season working out how and why it doesn't drive that
great and all the things you want to change so you are happy -
not to mention the ever evolving styling and upgrades that you
only do and know once you are using it' - for me, personally,
that is the fun and challenge of being involved in cks (and no,
it doesn't suit everyone).
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