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       #Post#: 9805--------------------------------------------------
       Just starting out
       By: AGP72 Date: November 23, 2023, 10:06 am
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       So, I'm new to all this
       Taking the advice to keep the first one simple, I've sketched
       out my intentions in CAD to check fit and feasibility.
       This is going to be an electric build, lower rear panel is
       (hopefully) going to duct some air past the motor and controller
       and out the 3 holes in the rear panel.
       Rear top will be removable to tend to batteries and electronics.
       Pics attached, positive comments welcome..........
       [attachimg=1][attachimg=2]
       Alan
       #Post#: 9814--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Just starting out
       By: Max Venturi Date: November 25, 2023, 5:52 pm
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       Where are you going to put the battery?
       How about at the front for better weight distribution?
       #Post#: 9816--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Just starting out
       By: chrisenamels Date: November 26, 2023, 2:36 am
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       With the current that will be drawn, the leads need to be as
       short as possible to limit power losses through heating. Using
       Li-ion batteries the whole setup will be lighter than a GX200
       and with fuel and TAV.
       #Post#: 9821--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Just starting out
       By: AGP72 Date: November 28, 2023, 6:05 am
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       [quote author=Chris Brown link=topic=1284.msg9816#msg9816
       date=1700987763]
       With the current that will be drawn, the leads need to be as
       short as possible to limit power losses through heating. Using
       Li-ion batteries the whole setup will be lighter than a GX200
       and with fuel and TAV.
       [/quote]
       My initial thoughts were 4 batteries (conventional sealed) so
       maybe 2 near the front axle, 2 at the rear. But further
       investigation on the comments from @ChrisBrown have led me to
       discard the idea because of the long power lines needed. So I'm
       going for a single 48v 52Ah LiPo pack and a 2kw 48v brushed
       motor. The brushless stuff seems OK but the control is harder to
       get my head around. A basic setup will do just fine for the
       first attempt. So I think I have all the info I need, I'm going
       for a Gemini front axle setup, pitbike wheels, pre-built kart
       axle (TBD),frame rails external to the body. Front leaf springs
       are the only remaining headache.
       #Post#: 9822--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Just starting out
       By: NewbieNick Date: November 28, 2023, 7:29 am
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       Hi AGP72, Mark Underdown makes very good leaf springs
       specifically designed for Cyclekarts.
       Try contacting him on this forum for availability. Good luck
       with your project.
       Cheers Nick
       #Post#: 9827--------------------------------------------------
       Re: Just starting out
       By: StefanN Date: November 29, 2023, 1:11 am
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       Firstly, good luck with the build.  What’s your inspiration car?
       I would be tempted to put the batteries towards the front and
       nice and low.  It’ll help with weight distribution and front end
       grip.  The power cables won’t be too long so for a 2m 16mm2
       cable you’ll lose about a tenth of a volt and 6W at full load.
       So you could probably go with a smaller cable.
       What battery are you thinking of using?  Check the current that
       your battery can deliver.  A 48V 58Ah battery that can safely
       deliver 2kw + margin was very expensive when I was looking into
       this option.  A much cheaper way might be to start with lead
       acid and then upgrade when it’s working.  You have more internal
       losses in the battery, but should get you driving ok.
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